Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] request for feedback, comments, and suggestions concerning archives.

Get ahold of a good html stripper program, and save them as text. You'll find
that they take up a quarter to a third or less of your storage space that way.

Bill

On Thu Dec 20 01:40:12 2001, terrylr@..., <terrylr@...> wrote:

>hello;
>
>i am rewriting the archive programs i use to archive various mailing lists.
>given that yahoo.com has made changes to the way messages are archived is
>what has prompted this rewrite. the archive program is being rewritten in perl.
>
>each message is downloaded as an html file. 1000 messages in html format roughly
>occupy 8.2megabytes of disk space. there are roughly 36000 messages archived
>for cad_cam_edm_dro. the entire cad_cam_edm_dro archive would roughly occupy
>300megabytes. 1000 plaintext messages occupy roughly 4.2megabytes of disk space.
>the entire cad_cam_edm_dro plaintext archive would roughly occupy 150megabytes
>of disk space. disk space savings based on the below proposals are not included
>in the above disk space figures. the disk space figures are also for uncompressed
>archives. compression savings are based on what compression program is used.
>bz2 is better than gzip. gzip is better than pkzip.
>
>i have been testing it on cad_cad_edm_dro and have several proposals concerning
>archiving the mailing list. i would appreciate feedback from members of cad_cam_edm_dro
>concerning the below proposals.
>
>first some brief background.
>cad_cam_edm_dro mailing list has been through several changes of hosting serivce
>ownership. there was onelist.com, then egroups.com, and now yahoogroups.com.
>several of these hosting services placed 'ads' or 'sponsorship' notices in each
>posting to the mailing list.
>
>proposal 0: these ads/sponsorship notices should be stripped out of the archives.
>reasons are: 0: many are obsolete/out-of-date/broken links.
> 1: they waste disk space.
> 2: given that the archives are plaintext and not html they are
> meaningless.
>
>proposal 1: references to previous mailing list hosting services should be stripped
>out.
>reasons are: 0: they are obsolete.
> 1: they waste disk space.
>
>proposal 2: messages which include links to items on ebay.com should have all
>links and references to ebay stripped out.
>reasons are: 0: majority are obsolete/out-of-date/broken links.
> 1: given that the archives are plaintext and not html they are
> meaningless to include.
>
>proposal 3: urls in messages should be stripped out and listed in a companion file.
>reasons are: 0: a central location would make searching easier.
> 1: a central location would allow for validating the urls and allow
> for broken urls to be removed and a single file uploaded.
> 2: reduced new cad_cam_edm_dro members frustration concerning finding
> information.
> 3. would reduced redundant urls from being posted again and again.
>
>
>i am open to serious feedback, comments, and suggestions.
>i would prefer if you reply privately to me concerning this message.
>i will summarize the replies to the list after a suitable time has
>gone by.
>
>--
>Terry L. Ridder
>Blue Danube Artistic Forge (Blaue Donau Kunstschmiede)
>"We do not bend metal, we sculpt it."
>
>digging deep, i feel my conscience burn
>i need to know who and what i am
>this hunger jolts me from complacency
>rocks me, makes me meet myself
>----kendall payne---closer to myself---

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