Re: Digest Number 24

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A few years ago Cincinnati Milicron published some stuff about the way they
were achieving rigidity without using castings. They were making large
hollow weldments for their machine bases, They then filled the hollows
with rebar and concrete. Damped out resonances, didn't require temperature
cycling and aging. Sure, its heavy, but for builder-users, it should be
possible to fill it only at or near its final position. Seems like it
would be worth designing your weldments so the concrete slurry can flow
into an integrated whole. Position the weldment before filling just as you
would a mold, so the air is displaced upward by the concrete to avoid
voids. It may not be worth doing for a low tool force application.

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> From: Mike Romine <mromine@...>
> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Digest Number 24
> Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:14 PM
>
> From: Mike Romine <mromine@...>
>
> > Poured lead or type-metal bearings are still used extensively on some
> > older-type industrial machinery and they are very successful - hence
> > there are machines around here still running with them which are over >

a hundred years old.

>
>
> I am going to try something semi-related to this topic. My CNC is
> fairly stiff for what I am doing, but I have a huge problem with
> vibration. I am using aluminum and steel extrusions and box channel for
> the frame. These hollow members are very underdamped in nature. 2 ways
> to decrease the amplitude of vibrations is to either increase the
> damping coefficient of the material, or increase the mass of the
> system. I was lucky to spend a day with Dan Huggins, programmer of
> Dancad, and he gave me the idea of making a precast concrete frame
> components. Then I saw a company at a trade show (Philadelphia resins)
> who make a slurry of granite particles in epoxy, and form it into a
> composite that has much of the vibration damping properties of solid
> granite. Davenport actually makes an entire lathe bed using this
> process. They also fill structural members with this goo to help damp
> vibrations in machines. Unfortunately, their stuff is too expensive for
> a hobbyist like myself. But, I think I am going to try to fill my
> hollow structural parts with a reinforced polymerized concrete. This
> will make my machine heavy as hell, but should also decrease the
> amplitude of the vibrations radically. I will let you all know how it
> works.
>
> -Mike Romine
>
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