Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DOS networking: How to use MSclient for DOS machinecontrollers
Posted by
Chris L
on 2002-11-11 16:59:18 UTC
I tried some methods that others said worked for them many years back on an Ah-ha controlled machine.
I did not have the same results and it could be that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. I do not think it was the method being spoke of here and can't quite remember what it was.
Short of Ah-ha's "then" lack of effective continuous motion necessary for a flatbed routing machine, the constant floppy file transfers drove us nuts. It takes a lot of time to load a file on a
floppie, course you know that and thats why you want to send it directly to the controllers drive. We had it working occasionally, but something did interupt the job. Even when it was working, we
wrestled with good DOS file managers like XtGold. Once windows was a happenin' thing. DOS file managers worked pretty lame too. Nobody could find stuff as quick as with windows. We'd often dual boot to
straighten things out once in a while.
I'd be curious if Ah-ha finished their contouring, or if they eventually developed a windows app. I know Richard over there is a brilliant guy with electronics, just check out some of his discussions
of long ago in alt.energy.homepower.
We swapped that old flatbed to Flashcut and said goodbye to those CRC 101 errors and networking blues long ago. We also enjoyed the immensly improved continuous motion much more important to a flatbed
router than a milling machine. The Ah-ha was a very very stable platform with lots and lots of I/O, but the "cost" was actually steep in this regard with time we spent waiting and fiddling with those
less than super fast floppies. Nowdays, with windows controls, I even transfer G-Code job files from place to place with a USB "thumb drive". Got one in my pocket right now! Can't beat that with a
stick.
Reminiscing is fun.... but I ain't going back.
Hope your DOS network works out, mine didn't and we wasted a lot of time getting it to work. At shop rate, we'd been better off retrofitting immediately !
Chris L
glee@... wrote:
I did not have the same results and it could be that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. I do not think it was the method being spoke of here and can't quite remember what it was.
Short of Ah-ha's "then" lack of effective continuous motion necessary for a flatbed routing machine, the constant floppy file transfers drove us nuts. It takes a lot of time to load a file on a
floppie, course you know that and thats why you want to send it directly to the controllers drive. We had it working occasionally, but something did interupt the job. Even when it was working, we
wrestled with good DOS file managers like XtGold. Once windows was a happenin' thing. DOS file managers worked pretty lame too. Nobody could find stuff as quick as with windows. We'd often dual boot to
straighten things out once in a while.
I'd be curious if Ah-ha finished their contouring, or if they eventually developed a windows app. I know Richard over there is a brilliant guy with electronics, just check out some of his discussions
of long ago in alt.energy.homepower.
We swapped that old flatbed to Flashcut and said goodbye to those CRC 101 errors and networking blues long ago. We also enjoyed the immensly improved continuous motion much more important to a flatbed
router than a milling machine. The Ah-ha was a very very stable platform with lots and lots of I/O, but the "cost" was actually steep in this regard with time we spent waiting and fiddling with those
less than super fast floppies. Nowdays, with windows controls, I even transfer G-Code job files from place to place with a USB "thumb drive". Got one in my pocket right now! Can't beat that with a
stick.
Reminiscing is fun.... but I ain't going back.
Hope your DOS network works out, mine didn't and we wasted a lot of time getting it to work. At shop rate, we'd been better off retrofitting immediately !
Chris L
glee@... wrote:
> Bob,
>
> It is my understanding that AhHa, which is a DOS based CNC COntroller, is
> very picky about any interrupts or TSR's being loaded in memory.
>
> As I understand it, they are concerned about unexpected interrupts (i.e.
> from a LAN card) interfering with the AhHa software. I have reason to
> believe that several people have found a way around this and indeed, may
> be using this method successfully.
>
> I wonder if you have any experience with this and, if I unplug the network
> cable when I am not moving files to the CNC machine, if that will
> eliminate any interrupts from being generated which I might interfere with
> the AhHa controller.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> -Eric
>
> Bob Simon Wrote:
> If anyone's interested, I've uploaded a description of how to enable
> ethernet client/server networking on DOS based machines. Since many of the
>
> home shop controllers run under DOS, networking is not easy to implement
> as
> the windoze based stuff. The text file is in a folder called "MSclient for
>
> DOS machine tools" at the Yahoo group files site.
>
> -Bob
>
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Chris L
2002-11-11 16:59:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DOS networking: How to use MSclient for DOS machinecontrollers