RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Denford CNC Lathe, HELP PLEASE
Posted by
Michael
on 2003-06-17 17:59:49 UTC
Tom
Controllers for early Denford machines were supplied
by a company called North East Electronics, this company is
based in NE England and I believe they are still going strong.
Denford machines are very popular in UK Colleges and many
have old machines (like yours hardly used) sitting collecting
dust. I would suggest contacting the Mech Eng Departments of your
local Colleges. You may find a source of spare parts or a college
technician currently maintaining a Denford.
Regards
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: bear_cnc [mailto:bear_cnc@...]
Sent: 17 June 2003 17:11
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Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Denford CNC Lathe, HELP PLEASE
Dear All,
I have recently acquired two identical Denford CNC lathes with ORAC
controls. Trouble is the main spindle drives are missing and there
are apparently faults with the ORAC (however they power up of a
fashion). I am told there may be other bits missing but don't know
which. The machines are from 1983, they use stepper motor drives
without encoders and a three-phase motor with a rudimentary encoder
for the main spindle. Apparently, all the mechanics and motors are OK.
I am desparate to find any documentation which may help me restoring
the machines, i.e. replacing what is missing and fixing what is
broken. A detailed wiring diagram/parts list of the ORAC controller
would be great.
Denford's are still going, but were not very helpful. I was after
detailed wiring diagrams, which may not be available from them. For
£30 I could get a maintenance manual, but I doubt whether it goes
into enough detail to put the things right again. I was advised to
leave the machines alone and that whoever built the CNC system (this
was not Denford) went bust years ago. ORAC? No support would be
available anymore.
The machines are in beautiful condition mechanically and have very
little hours on them. Hence my determination to bring them back to
life.
As a secondary approach, I would be trying to re-fit them with a new
control system, perhaps salvaging as much as possible from the old
ones.
Any help and advice appreciated.
As this is my first message, perhaps a few words about myself:
I am a German model engineer, but living and working in Britain. I am
a mechanical engineer by trade, with a bit of knowledge in industrial
control (not necessarily CNC). I have restored all sorts of things
before (including machine tools), but this will be my first CNC job.
Thanks and kind regards,
Tom.
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Controllers for early Denford machines were supplied
by a company called North East Electronics, this company is
based in NE England and I believe they are still going strong.
Denford machines are very popular in UK Colleges and many
have old machines (like yours hardly used) sitting collecting
dust. I would suggest contacting the Mech Eng Departments of your
local Colleges. You may find a source of spare parts or a college
technician currently maintaining a Denford.
Regards
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: bear_cnc [mailto:bear_cnc@...]
Sent: 17 June 2003 17:11
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Denford CNC Lathe, HELP PLEASE
Dear All,
I have recently acquired two identical Denford CNC lathes with ORAC
controls. Trouble is the main spindle drives are missing and there
are apparently faults with the ORAC (however they power up of a
fashion). I am told there may be other bits missing but don't know
which. The machines are from 1983, they use stepper motor drives
without encoders and a three-phase motor with a rudimentary encoder
for the main spindle. Apparently, all the mechanics and motors are OK.
I am desparate to find any documentation which may help me restoring
the machines, i.e. replacing what is missing and fixing what is
broken. A detailed wiring diagram/parts list of the ORAC controller
would be great.
Denford's are still going, but were not very helpful. I was after
detailed wiring diagrams, which may not be available from them. For
£30 I could get a maintenance manual, but I doubt whether it goes
into enough detail to put the things right again. I was advised to
leave the machines alone and that whoever built the CNC system (this
was not Denford) went bust years ago. ORAC? No support would be
available anymore.
The machines are in beautiful condition mechanically and have very
little hours on them. Hence my determination to bring them back to
life.
As a secondary approach, I would be trying to re-fit them with a new
control system, perhaps salvaging as much as possible from the old
ones.
Any help and advice appreciated.
As this is my first message, perhaps a few words about myself:
I am a German model engineer, but living and working in Britain. I am
a mechanical engineer by trade, with a bit of knowledge in industrial
control (not necessarily CNC). I have restored all sorts of things
before (including machine tools), but this will be my first CNC job.
Thanks and kind regards,
Tom.
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if you have trouble.
http://www.metalworking.com/news_servers.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jobshophomeshop I consider this to be a
sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there,
for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list.
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Discussion Thread
bear_cnc
2003-06-17 10:14:52 UTC
Denford CNC Lathe, HELP PLEASE
Andrew Mawson
2003-06-17 13:11:34 UTC
Re: Denford CNC Lathe, HELP PLEASE
Barrie Hopewell
2003-06-17 15:43:33 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Denford CNC Lathe, HELP PLEASE
Michael
2003-06-17 17:59:49 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Denford CNC Lathe, HELP PLEASE
bear_cnc
2003-08-01 08:22:34 UTC
Re: Denford CNC Lathe, HELP PLEASE