DRO stuff
Posted by
Arne Chr. Jorgensen
on 2000-03-17 19:19:56 UTC
Hi,
First, - thanks Jon for the link to the datasheets. I have not looked at it
yet, and it may take some time.
{ the ISP problem - after a short time - I am down to 6 bps, or the line
comes to a full halt. (They are working on it) }
Why do you insist on an optical system ? Do you now something that I don't ?
Don't missunderstand me - but I would like to dwell a little more on these
other systems.
Sure, the price on these chips may be high, - but you could make a cheaper
circuit, - I think. I fully agree about the PCB layout, - I just mentioned it
could be done in some other way.
Jan wrote: ( He is to blame, if the Mitutoyo stocks went up :)
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optical systems.
Jon wrote:
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How many of them ?
Mark wrote: ( hi mark :)
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layer on one side, and these "islands" of parallelograms on the oposite side ?
What does the sensor head look like ?
Bill wrote:
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Marc wrote:
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Elliot wrote:
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I just don't understand the problem, and how this "readout head" should look
like.
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We have several systems here, - I am trying to get some ideas on how these
things works. I think the one Jon described, could be made to work with a
"bucket brigade" RC circuit, scanning each "thin" line.
For the other systems, - I don't know yet. Need more info.
But a few words about Jon's type of circuit:
I will use a 8051 as an example:
Let say you can use an analog multiplexer, or switch. Then you may have a
resistor VCC, for charging.
Then connecting this to a port pin:
- writing a "0" out, and wait a little, discharge the capacitance
- reading like,
read:
djnz value, done
mov c, portpin
jnc read
done:
; enable next read line.
( have not written anything for this cpu in years, so bare with me if this is
wrong :) - but you should get the idea.
( - note I skipped the "bucket brigade" type of thing here )
The value bytes, would get an image of the sensor area.
I wrote this as an example, and it would be nice if someone had some clever
ideas.
Last, more descriptions on the various sensors/systems is of value.
//ARNE
First, - thanks Jon for the link to the datasheets. I have not looked at it
yet, and it may take some time.
{ the ISP problem - after a short time - I am down to 6 bps, or the line
comes to a full halt. (They are working on it) }
Why do you insist on an optical system ? Do you now something that I don't ?
Don't missunderstand me - but I would like to dwell a little more on these
other systems.
Sure, the price on these chips may be high, - but you could make a cheaper
circuit, - I think. I fully agree about the PCB layout, - I just mentioned it
could be done in some other way.
Jan wrote: ( He is to blame, if the Mitutoyo stocks went up :)
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> My <$100 Mitutoyo is "perfect" and just keeps on working and working andWell, this is the stuff that make me want to investigate into other than just
> working... And, it is SUPER-accurate! I can't believe it
optical systems.
Jon wrote:
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>The Chinese scale has little squares about 2 mm square of copper<snip>
>on a PC board material, with the squares ocurring about every 2 cm. The
>head has a bunch of thin lines all connected to the control chip.
> .. strips are only about 3 or 4 per mm, at the most.How large is the area that these thin lines enclose ?
How many of them ?
Mark wrote: ( hi mark :)
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> There is capacitive coupling between the parallelograms andOkay, am I to understand it like this: A two sided PCB board with a common
> the opposite surface.
layer on one side, and these "islands" of parallelograms on the oposite side ?
What does the sensor head look like ?
Bill wrote:
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> ..at one time there was an article in one of the HSM magazines about a guyCould there be anything like this on a web site someplace ?
> making the strips at home, maybe someone will remember it.
Marc wrote:
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> At the time some people were talking about "Induction" (If I recall)Any idea how to make a sensor head for this setup ?
> sensors based on very close precision bearing balls.
Elliot wrote:
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>What the world needs is a good quadrature readout head for diode lasers.This you have to explain a little bit more, I don't understand what you mean.
>Does anyone know of one? Does anyone want one but me?
I just don't understand the problem, and how this "readout head" should look
like.
-----------------------------------------------------
We have several systems here, - I am trying to get some ideas on how these
things works. I think the one Jon described, could be made to work with a
"bucket brigade" RC circuit, scanning each "thin" line.
For the other systems, - I don't know yet. Need more info.
But a few words about Jon's type of circuit:
I will use a 8051 as an example:
Let say you can use an analog multiplexer, or switch. Then you may have a
resistor VCC, for charging.
Then connecting this to a port pin:
- writing a "0" out, and wait a little, discharge the capacitance
- reading like,
read:
djnz value, done
mov c, portpin
jnc read
done:
; enable next read line.
( have not written anything for this cpu in years, so bare with me if this is
wrong :) - but you should get the idea.
( - note I skipped the "bucket brigade" type of thing here )
The value bytes, would get an image of the sensor area.
I wrote this as an example, and it would be nice if someone had some clever
ideas.
Last, more descriptions on the various sensors/systems is of value.
//ARNE
Discussion Thread
Elliot Burke
2000-03-11 09:06:00 UTC
DRO stuff
Elliot Burke
2000-03-13 14:10:28 UTC
re:re: DRO stuff
Arne Chr. Jorgensen
2000-03-17 19:19:56 UTC
DRO stuff