Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] PIC DRO

I do not understand electronics or programming enough to put this system together. I have all the components that have been mentioned in this and earlier posts but lack the knowledge. I am trying to move this discussion along to a conclusion so that those of us with the need for such a DRO would get what they need even if they did not have the technology to develope the idea.

I proposed using an LS7166 as an up/down counter which I hope should keep track of what the encoders are doing, which would free up the 16F877 for the maths. We have quite a lot of input to this idea and because of the amount of program space within the chip it I thought it better. I am not a programmer and have little idea how much space is required for the following functions.

Imp./metric.
Half button.
Linear/rotary input.
Resets for various reasons.

I have no idea what I am talking about, I am just talking hoping one of you genus's out there will pick it up and give some practical input.

Regards,

Terry.

----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Edington
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] PIC DRO


I'm working on a project right now that uses a 16F877 and reads two rotary encoders. It wouldn't take much to modify
my code to make it a DRO. It's already driving a 4x20 LCD too. My encoder code is working fine.

Some questions I have about a home DRO design.

1. Why not read the data via the serial port? Then any computer could be used to display the data or a stand alone LCD could be used. Then you don't need an ISA card or any other add in card. All you are doing is getting the count from the PIC so serial port speed isn't an issue.

2. What's the LS7166 for? Since the F877 has an interrupt on change function of the upper nibble of Port B, and since two encoders only need 4 lines to read, you can use the PIC for the counter. Anytime the encoder changes it generates an interrupt which the PIC then updates the count from. I'm also doing this in a very noisy environment with brushed motor attached to the machine that has the encoders so electrical noise hasn't proved to be an issue on my project.

Ok, so that's only 2 axis worth . You can also use Xor gates to build the logic so you have a direction and count line coming into the PIC. Doing it this way would let you have 4 axis on one pic if you put the count lines on the high nibble of port b and polled the direction lines in your interrupt service routine. Only $1 worth of additional logic to do it this way. Or just use two cheaper pics like the F84's to read two encoders each and share the serial output line. Now you are into it for less than the price of a F877. But the dual F84's would be more difficult to use a single LCD with ( it can be done though ).

I don't have any time right now to devote to this project. But in couple of weeks I should.

later,
Larry E.
----- Original Message -----
From: james owens
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] PIC DRO


I thought it would be a good idea to post how much a PIC based DRO would cost if you built it yourself. These prices are in USD as most on this list are of that flavour.

I have worked and listed the costs as per axis except for the common parts that only have to be bought once and it all refers to what I wrote in the orginal posting of my wish list. The items list are by no means definative as it relies on someone else doing the PIC programming and designing the circuit. I will be glad to do the metalwork and the artwork for the boards.

The prices quoted are for one off quanties or small amounts from the likes of Digi-Key or USDigital.

Common parts are the power supply which is about 1amp @ 5v. I think this amount of current is enough for our purposes.

Qty. 1 Box 6.36 HM112-ND
Qty. 1 Transformer. 9.63 MT2104-ND
Qty. 1 Bridge Rect. 0.52 RB151MS-ND
Qty. 1 Cap. smoothing 16v 6.800uF 2.45 4209PHBK-ND
Qty. 1 Heat Sink TO-220 1.75 HS239-ND
Qty. 1 Voltage Reg. 7805 0.75 296-1974-5-ND

Misc. items such as circuit board, stand off's, screws, cable?


The following should be seen as per axis eg. if three axis is required then multiply by three. Some of the costs are not known at this stage because I have no idea what metal costs in the USA.

Qty. 1 Linear encoder 27" long 54.00 13" long 26.00 Rotary 2000 line/rev 5/8" bore 22.00
Qty. 1 HED****** 360 line/inch 25.00 HED******* 2000 CPR 28.00
Qty. 1 Up/Down Counter LS7166 11.65
Qty. 1 PIC 16F877 11.95
Qty. 1 Display LCD 12.88

Misc. items such as metal to protect scale, circuit board, stand off's, screws etc.?

This is a big difference in cost over commercial made systems @ $1000.

Regards,

Terry.






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