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Re: access to Ametek motors- suitable for Servo application?

Posted by Earl
on 2003-12-22 10:11:20 UTC
Thanks for the pointers so far.
I did get this extra info about one of the motors, the 50V one:

Ohms: 0.839
Shaft Diameter: 1/2"
Weight: 11Lb
Length: 7"
Volt: 50 VDC
Amps: 1

The 1 Amp rating makes me question it significantly.

I was told that the thnig will spin about 1800RPM at 48VDC, and
500RPM at 12VDC. I have no idea if this is even remotely correct or
not.. They also mentioned that the motors had offset brushes and were
designed to run optimumly in one direction over the other.???

Again, any insite is welcome.
Thanks.

> Well, this just isn't enough info. Given the RPM at X Volts, that
gives you
> a lot more to work with. Otherwise, I can't tell anything else
about these
> motors.
>
> The standard Ametek motor that lots of people use (36 V @ 900 RPM)
have
> pretty high armature resistance. I'd suspect that any other motor
they
> make in
> the same frame would be wound the same way. it seems that these
motors
> don't allow a Gecko drive to reach its proper performance in terms
of DC
> gain. In other words, you can take the shaft of the motor and move
it maybe
> 10 - 15 degrees with VERY little resistance, then the Gecko starts
pumping
> current through it and it resists the deflection. I haven't gotten
any
> explanation
> from Mariss as to why it behaves like that, it isn't supposed to!
My own
> servo drives get very stiff, and reach full current with a
deflection of
> .001"
> or so, which is a small fraction of a degree. I am assuming that
either
> the inductance
> or series resistance of these motors prevent the I term of the PID
> control loop
> from working properly. And, it appears, although I haven't tested
it,
> that this
> may only apply to the Ametek motors. I've had several people
report similar
> behavior with Ameteks, and no other motors.
>
> >Anyone have any experience with anything like these? Are these
> >anything like the "other" Ametek servo motors available around?
> >
> >
> Yes, I think they are the same frame, just with different windings.
> They can
> change the number of turns/coil and the wire gauge to set the
volts/RPM
> where the customer needs it.
>
> Jon

Discussion Thread

Earl 2003-12-21 23:15:56 UTC access to Ametek motors- suitable for Servo application? Jon Elson 2003-12-22 09:12:04 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] access to Ametek motors- suitable for Servo application? Kim Lux 2003-12-22 09:35:33 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] access to Ametek motors- suitable for Servo application? Earl 2003-12-22 10:11:20 UTC Re: access to Ametek motors- suitable for Servo application? Jon Elson 2003-12-22 20:38:05 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] access to Ametek motors- suitable for Servo application? Jon Elson 2003-12-22 20:41:47 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: access to Ametek motors- suitable for Servo application? Kim Lux 2003-12-23 08:31:55 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] access to Ametek motors- suitable for Servo application?