Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 3-phase variable reluctance motors
Posted by
Bob McKnight
on 2004-03-12 07:26:43 UTC
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From: "dex367" <dexlabboy@...>
Date sent: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:36:54 -0000
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 3-phase variable
reluctance motors
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I have a couple of these motors, not sure of ratings, but are about $
inches in dia and 6-7 inches long. Mine came on a Sub assembly
that has a capacitor and resistor in series hooked across two black
leads and 110 volts single phase across the black and white lead.
If I can be of help, I will dig them out and answer any questions
I can.
<My memory is that they are rated (nameplate) at 72 rpm.
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and am in Phoenix Az
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wrote: > I've got my little grubby hands on a few of these, and I was
wondering > what they might be used for. > > The rundown: > Superior
Electric Slo-Syn stepper/synchronous motor > 65 oz-in holding torque
is common, the other 3 go to the coils. > > What gets me is that the
shaft is so free-spinning, not at all like the > steppers I'm used to.
I have done a lot of work with variable reluctance / switched
reluctance motors.
In a nutshell they have only a stack of metal laminations for the
rotor. The magnetic field of the rotor will pull the pole of
lamination like a electromagnet picking up nails (Remember doing that
as a kid?). Because there is no magnets in the rotor there is no
clogging torque.
Here is the kicker. These motors are very unstable if you look at
them mathamatically. That is there strengh and weakness. The
strengh
is because they are so unstable they can be ran a wide speed range,
from couple for RPMs to 15K RPM with an amazing ramp speed. The
weakness is you need a bit of processing power to control the
commutations. I have used a DSP with success. You can run them
with
a stepper driver but you will have alot of torque ripple.
Dex
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From: "dex367" <dexlabboy@...>
Date sent: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:36:54 -0000
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 3-phase variable
reluctance motors
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I have a couple of these motors, not sure of ratings, but are about $
inches in dia and 6-7 inches long. Mine came on a Sub assembly
that has a capacitor and resistor in series hooked across two black
leads and 110 volts single phase across the black and white lead.
If I can be of help, I will dig them out and answer any questions
I can.
<My memory is that they are rated (nameplate) at 72 rpm.
I am at
bobmcknight@...
and am in Phoenix Az
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--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Fritz
<tomfritz@d...>
wrote: > I've got my little grubby hands on a few of these, and I was
wondering > what they might be used for. > > The rundown: > Superior
Electric Slo-Syn stepper/synchronous motor > 65 oz-in holding torque
>24 step/rev > 36V operation, 2.5A > > These things have 4 wires...one
is common, the other 3 go to the coils. > > What gets me is that the
shaft is so free-spinning, not at all like the > steppers I'm used to.
I have done a lot of work with variable reluctance / switched
reluctance motors.
In a nutshell they have only a stack of metal laminations for the
rotor. The magnetic field of the rotor will pull the pole of
lamination like a electromagnet picking up nails (Remember doing that
as a kid?). Because there is no magnets in the rotor there is no
clogging torque.
Here is the kicker. These motors are very unstable if you look at
them mathamatically. That is there strengh and weakness. The
strengh
is because they are so unstable they can be ran a wide speed range,
from couple for RPMs to 15K RPM with an amazing ramp speed. The
weakness is you need a bit of processing power to control the
commutations. I have used a DSP with success. You can run them
with
a stepper driver but you will have alot of torque ripple.
Dex
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Discussion Thread
Thomas Fritz
2004-03-11 19:51:43 UTC
3-phase variable reluctance motors
dex367
2004-03-12 06:37:14 UTC
Re: 3-phase variable reluctance motors
Bob McKnight
2004-03-12 07:26:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 3-phase variable reluctance motors
dex367
2004-03-12 12:39:53 UTC
Re: 3-phase variable reluctance motors