Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Digest Number 4306

Kev,

im in the UK (somerset) and have built my own CNC mill so if i can help
just ask.
Any number of shopfitters will do alloy sections, but perhasp the
most direct route would be to contact an a window fiting compamy (who are
everywhere) if you have no joy there then i know for a fact that a company
called Universal Aluminium in Bristol (uk) do pretty much nothing but alloy
shop fronts.

I have a number of catalogues from other useful companies like HPC Gears,
whao are brilliant as they have everything including anti backlash rack and
pinion components, On Drives www.ondrives.com who do all sorts of stuff
including complete linear slides etc also try www.rino.co.uk .

What sort of machine are you after?, i have loads of stuff like linear
rails, motors, 3 axis controller all mainly surplus as my mill is completed.

Nick

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> 1. Re: Hobby CNC Plans for a UK Build
> From: "Kev Pearce \(kevp.com\)" <lists@...>
> 2. Re: Hobby CNC Plans for a UK Build
> From: "Blue" <jo001k1132@...>
> 3. Re: Sokki DL102 digital readout
> From: "jymmm" <jymmm@...>
> 4. dog tag engraving machine
> From: "Elliot Burke" <elliot@...>
> 5. Re: dog tag engraving machine
> From: Randy Gordon-Gilmore <zephyrus@...>
> 6. Re: COLLETS FOR AD65 COLLET CHUCK
> From: "m0nkey0ne" <m0nkey0ne@...>
> 7. Re: Sokki DL102 digital readout
> From: "linearmeasurement" <lmsc@...>
> 8. CAD
> From: "stcnc2000" <thinkcnc@...>
> 9. RE: Re:NEMA 23 Stepper Motors
> From: "Dave Fisher" <dave@...>
> 10. BOSS programming question
> From: "Polaraligned" <polaraligned@...>
> 11. Re: COLLETS FOR AD65 COLLET CHUCK
> From: "Polaraligned" <polaraligned@...>
> 12. Re: Hobby CNC Plans for a UK Build
> From: "Blue" <jo001k1132@...>
> 13. Re: Re: COLLETS FOR AD65 COLLET CHUCK
> From: "Blue" <jo001k1132@...>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:19:25 +0100
> From: "Kev Pearce \(kevp.com\)" <lists@...>
> Subject: Re: Hobby CNC Plans for a UK Build
>
> Thanks for the words Terry.
>
> I think I'll have a read of the book when it arrives and see how I can
> progress with that...
>
> Cheers for the input
>
> Kev/.
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> From: "Blue" <jo001k1132@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Hobby CNC Plans for a UK Build
>
>
>> Hi Kev,
>>
>> There is nothing in the Crank Organ plans that couldn't be found in the
>> UK
>> with a little lateral thinking. However I wouldn't try to obtain the
>> plans
>> directly from them as he has a really bad attitude towards us Limmies for
>> some reason. Dispite having been on the wrong end of it, I still
>> recommend
>> the plans to anyone who want to build a small machine which will do
>> everything your application needs and much more for almost nothing. The
>> plan
>> and supporting documents are well written and comprehensive. I started to
>> build a machine from aluminium box section using the plans as a guide but
>> got side tracked into something else. I did find without the store-front
>> I
>> spent too much time making up the sections and needed a miller to do so.
>> The
>> plans call for just basic hand tools with the extrusions and virtually
>> nothing is bought as the extrusions are begged from shop fitters. I have
>> no
>> doubt the extrusions are available here but I haven't bothered looking as
>> I
>> don't know any shop fitters or companies that make the stuff.
>>
>> To answer a point you made in an earlier post about the main expense
>> being
>> the motors and then changing you mind after looking at the price of
>> linear
>> rails. I have to disagree when you could use ground mild steel or
>> stainless
>> steel available from your local metal merchant. the biggest cost apart
>> from
>> the time involved is going to be the precision Acme-screws or Ball-screws
>> and their nuts closely followed by the mountings and bearings for the
>> said
>> screws. You can use threaded-rod, as per the Chrank Organ plans, but that
>> would lead to larger motors or a lack of performance.
>>
>> Whether you use the book or Crank Organs plans you will have a
>> comprehensive
>> "how to" manual on how to build a machine for very little cost using some
>> bought materials and scrap/odds and ends.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>>> > The stuff is called 'store front' and it is an aluminum extrusion.
>>>
>>> Does it ever come up on ebay ??
>>> Aluminimum can't cost that much to post to the UK surface?
>>>
>>> I don't have the crank organ plan so I don't know if there are any other
>>> parts that are also US only...
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Kev/.
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:51:06 +0100
> From: "Blue" <jo001k1132@...>
> Subject: Re: Hobby CNC Plans for a UK Build
>
> Hi Kev,
>
> You might want to give this site a look:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~scottxs/pcbcnc/cncindex.htm
>
> Regards,
>
> Terry
>
>> Thanks for the words Terry.
>>
>> I think I'll have a read of the book when it arrives and see how I can
>> progress with that...
>>
>> Cheers for the input
>>
>> Kev/.
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 17:38:52 -0000
> From: "jymmm" <jymmm@...>
> Subject: Re: Sokki DL102 digital readout
>
> Hi Elliot,
>
> You said that X and Y were having problems...
>
> Why not switch the cabling on the Z and Y scales (or X)
> and see if the "FF" moves to another display.
>
> At least you'll be able to isolate if the problem is with the scales,
> cabling, or readout box.
>
> Just a thought
>
> Jim...
>
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "optics22000" <elliot@h...> wrote:
>> My Sokki DL102 readout and scales were purchased on ebay years ago,
>> they've given good service, until now. The display reads FF.....,
>> which according to the manual might mean overflow. This must be an
>> error since nothing is moving. This reading comes up on both x and y
>> as soon as the readout is turned on.
>>
>> No pushing of buttons seems to change anything.
>> No changes have been made in any settings.
>>
>> I've checked the power supply, it gives +5 and +/-15 V as one would
>> expect.
>>
>> Connectors have all been pulled out and replaced.
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:36:17 -0700
> From: "Elliot Burke" <elliot@...>
> Subject: dog tag engraving machine
>
> My dog has new dog tags, made by a coin operated machine at the local pet
> store. This is a CNC engraving machine.
> The long x axis (maybe 30") was a bar of steel maybe 2" x 1/2" with knife
> edges on the 1/2" sides and roller bearings.
> The z axis was a rack, it appears to have just two positions, up and
> down(engraving).
> y axis wasn't clear.
>
> There were stepper motors on x and y axis.
>
> I didn't see a rotating cutter, or see anything that looked like a
> spindle.
>
> There was a point that projects where the cutting was, this had the
> function
> of pushing the metal blanks around when it wasn't cutting. I'm guessing
> the
> cutter was inside this.
>
> Examining the engraving under a microscope, it is clear that the cutting
> tool is conical, there are marks that look just like rotary tool marks.
> The
> precision isn't very high, it looks like the play in the machine is
> several
> thou.
>
> Anyone know where they hide the spindle?
>
> Look in your local pet store for a coin operated CNC show!
>
> regards-
> Elliot
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:06:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Randy Gordon-Gilmore <zephyrus@...>
> Subject: Re: dog tag engraving machine
>
> Elliot wrote:
>
>> My dog has new dog tags, made by a coin operated machine at the
>> local pet store. This is a CNC engraving machine.
>
> Our three dogs all have nametags made on such a machine also. As far
> as I can see, it is a "diamond drag" type of engraver. The Z axis is
> heavily built, and just pushes an engraving stylus around on the
> blank. Nothing rotating at all. Drag engraving is a pretty standard
> way of doing small metal tags (I've been reading about it while
> reconditioning a second-hand Roland engraving machine I hope to do
> such work on--well, scribing lines onto brass as an adjunct to my
> photoetching--I hope to be able to engrave finer lines than I can
> reliably etch.)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Randy
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:50:04 -0000
> From: "m0nkey0ne" <m0nkey0ne@...>
> Subject: Re: COLLETS FOR AD65 COLLET CHUCK
>
> WHEN YOU USE ALL CAPS IN YOUR TEXT IT MEANS YOU ARE YELLING AT US. If
> you tone it down and stop the "verbal abuse" you will be received
> better and appear much more friendly.
> Randy
> Montana
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "fan5335" <arniecase2005@s...>
> wrote:
>> DOES ANY ONE KNOW THE DIN SPEC NUMBER FOR AD65 COLLETS? IM SEARCHING
>> FOR A LARGER COLLET THEN I HAVE. THIS WAS USED BY MORI SEIKI IN THE
>> 1980'S AND WERE MADE BY RIKEN? AND I WANT TO FIND A COLLET TO FIT
>> WITHOUT BORING ONE I HAVE TO A BIGGER SIZE.
>> THANKS
>> FAN5335
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:39:34 -0000
> From: "linearmeasurement" <lmsc@...>
> Subject: Re: Sokki DL102 digital readout
>
> Elliot,
>
> I can fix your sokki digital readout system. Call me at 877-376-4373.
>
> My web site is www.digitalreadout.com or www.sokki.com
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim
> LMSC
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "optics22000" <elliot@h...> wrote:
>> My Sokki DL102 readout and scales were purchased on ebay years ago,
>> they've given good service, until now. The display reads FF.....,
>> which according to the manual might mean overflow. This must be an
>> error since nothing is moving. This reading comes up on both x and y
>> as soon as the readout is turned on.
>>
>> No pushing of buttons seems to change anything.
>> No changes have been made in any settings.
>>
>> I've checked the power supply, it gives +5 and +/-15 V as one would
>> expect.
>>
>> Connectors have all been pulled out and replaced.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with this brand, or know of a
>> repairperson? A web search was not helpful.....
>>
>> Any help would be gratefully received.
>>
>> regards-
>> Elliot B.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:13:18 -0000
> From: "stcnc2000" <thinkcnc@...>
> Subject: CAD
>
> Hi to all,
> I can recommend Intellicad 5.1 SE, if you are going to use it with
> CNC. The price is right for about $52.00, its just like using Autocad.
> Here's the page for a Cad to CNC tutorial:
> http://stcnc.tripod.com/tutorial
>
> Thinkcnc
> Bob
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:06:03 +0100
> From: "Dave Fisher" <dave@...>
> Subject: RE: Re:NEMA 23 Stepper Motors
>
>
> Possibly of interest to members in Europe
> I have placed a quantity of brand new Nema 23 200 degree steppers on Ebay
> in
> packs of 4
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7518526679
>
> Rgds
>
> Dave Fisher
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:18:47 -0000
> From: "Polaraligned" <polaraligned@...>
> Subject: BOSS programming question
>
> Got my BOSS 4 up and running today. I have no experience CNC
> programming. I am just fooling around with this machine trying
> to get a feel for CAM. I am able to manually program the machine to do
> a G77 facing cycle and a few others but I cannot get the machine
> to do a G79 hole milling cycle. Question is how do I enter "I" and "J"
> values? There are no keys on the MDI keypad to select these values,
> as there are for X and Y. The G79 format according to the programming
> manual is G79 J (value) F (value). The example the manual gives is:
> G79J1.0F100 to mill a 1.0 radius hole plus the cutter radius. But
> there is no J button.
> Any help?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:59:33 -0000
> From: "Polaraligned" <polaraligned@...>
> Subject: Re: COLLETS FOR AD65 COLLET CHUCK
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "m0nkey0ne" <m0nkey0ne@y...>
> wrote:
>> WHEN YOU USE ALL CAPS IN YOUR TEXT IT MEANS YOU ARE YELLING AT US. If
>> you tone it down and stop the "verbal abuse" you will be received
>> better and appear much more friendly.
>> Randy
>> Montana
>>
>
>
> Hmmm....Does not sound too loud to me. Just a matter of opinion.
>
> Scott
>
>
>> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "fan5335" <arniecase2005@s...>
>> wrote:
>> > DOES ANY ONE KNOW THE DIN SPEC NUMBER FOR AD65 COLLETS? IM SEARCHING
>> > FOR A LARGER COLLET THEN I HAVE. THIS WAS USED BY MORI SEIKI IN THE
>> > 1980'S AND WERE MADE BY RIKEN? AND I WANT TO FIND A COLLET TO FIT
>> > WITHOUT BORING ONE I HAVE TO A BIGGER SIZE.
>> > THANKS
>> > FAN5335
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 02:14:24 +0100
> From: "Blue" <jo001k1132@...>
> Subject: Re: Hobby CNC Plans for a UK Build
>
> Hi Again Kev,
>
> If all you wanted your machine to do is drill holes and some very light
> milling then these steppers (although larger would be faster), acme
> screws,
> linear rails, home made drivers (from the book) and TurboCNC would do the
> job:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7518526679
>
> Regards,
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>> Hi Kev,
>>
>> You might want to give this site a look:
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~scottxs/pcbcnc/cncindex.htm
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Terry
>>
>> > Thanks for the words Terry.
>> >
>> > I think I'll have a read of the book when it arrives and see how I can
>> > progress with that...
>> >
>> > Cheers for the input
>> >
>> > Kev/.
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 02:18:02 +0100
> From: "Blue" <jo001k1132@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: COLLETS FOR AD65 COLLET CHUCK
>
> Hi,
>
> Have you tried
> http://www.cox-internet.com/drspiff/machining/collets/Collets.htm
>
> Regards,
>
> Terry
>
>
>> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "m0nkey0ne" <m0nkey0ne@y...>
>> wrote:
>> > WHEN YOU USE ALL CAPS IN YOUR TEXT IT MEANS YOU ARE YELLING AT US. If
>> > you tone it down and stop the "verbal abuse" you will be received
>> > better and appear much more friendly.
>> > Randy
>> > Montana
>> >
>>
>>
>> Hmmm....Does not sound too loud to me. Just a matter of opinion.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "fan5335" <arniecase2005@s...>
>> > wrote:
>> > > DOES ANY ONE KNOW THE DIN SPEC NUMBER FOR AD65 COLLETS? IM SEARCHING
>> > > FOR A LARGER COLLET THEN I HAVE. THIS WAS USED BY MORI SEIKI IN THE
>> > > 1980'S AND WERE MADE BY RIKEN? AND I WANT TO FIND A COLLET TO FIT
>> > > WITHOUT BORING ONE I HAVE TO A BIGGER SIZE.
>> > > THANKS
>> > > FAN5335
>>
>>
>>
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