Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bobcad anyone?

Version 21 is nothing more than Version 20, Version 19, etc. They claim these to be "new versions" when in fact they are nothing more than software upgrades. I own 8 seats of Version 20. It's not a bad program for what it is/costs and I've produced a mountain of good code with it. One thing it isn't: Conversational. The training CD's are a must.

Their highly versed and rehearsed sales team called me the other day and insisted that I upgrade to version 21. I asked "why should I?" "You're convinced I need to, what is the reason?" From what I could gather, there is absolutely no difference from 20 to 21 save a few new import features that may or may not work. I didn't upgrade. I'm still using 20.7 and will be until I'm convinced I need to upgrade.

In my opinion, they have a long way to go before they can claim they have released a "new version", If Art did the same as them, we'd be using "Mach 792" :-)

Ron



John Stevenson <john@...> wrote:

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> In a message dated 7/10/2006 12:01:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> timg@... writes:
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> They have what seems to be a well deserved reputation for high pressure
> sales, promising the world and then telling you that it will be fixed in a
> future release, and promoting the "buy now and you can save" routine.
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> AMEN to that. We were contacted by them and showed some small interest but
> told them up front that we were NOT planning to purchase anything until we
> had checked out the different packages thoroughly. We received no less than 4
> calls a day, at least 2 E-mails per day and they even dropped the price from
> nearly $4,000.00 to $1100.00 on the new 21. Now I HAVE used BobCad in the
> past and they were telling me how much they had improved it, that it is now a
> true post processing system, there were very few changes from the older
> versions I have used. You still have to do a lot of editing of the NC file as
> there is no way to customize what they call a post processor. It just seems to
> be fancy macro, just like they have always had. The package is certainly NOT
> worth even the $1100.00 they ask us to pay. I am still convinced that
> Dolphin CAD/CAM is a MUCH better value and is easier to use overall.
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> Randy
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Bobcad V21 STILL doesn't have a post processor.
It has various config files that you have to select in order, tool, speeds. coolant etc.

I have just ran one of their simple demo's, selected all the entities and told it to machine it on auto.

No tool selected, no feeds selected, no Z depth selected.

Any program with a proper post procesor whould have asked what tool, what feed etc.

For $1100 you have a good choice out there instaed of being sucked in by these shysters hawking a 10 year old program around.

No-one works this way any more.

John S.






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