Ball Screws for my Mill ?
Posted by
currinh@O...
on 2000-09-16 20:18:00 UTC
CNCers:
If you remember, I'm trying to retrofit my Supermax knee mill for
CNC.
I'm currently (still) trying to verify that a Bridgeport ball screw
kit will work on my mill. From what I've found and measured it will
be far easier to start with a kit than with bare ball screws and nuts.
I've found kits manufactured by Nook (PowerTrac), Thomson Saginaw and
Hiwin. I've also found kits supplied through McMaster Carr,
Microkinetics and a mid west group GL Centroid. However, I don't
know
what manufacturer supplies these last three. The prices are all over
the map:
Nook +/- .001 "/ft $1665
Thomson Saginaw +/- .0005 "/ft $3821
Hiwin +/- .0005 "/ft $ 950
+/- .002 "/ft $ 600
McMaster Carr +/- .003 "/ft $ 742
Microkinetics +/- .003 "/ft $ 975
GL Centroid +/- ? $ 900
I thought the Thomson Saginaw were rolled threads but by the
tolerance
and cost they must be ground. I figure I must be getting a mix of
wholesale and retail prices??
But now for my question. My mill has a 9x42 table and I've pulled
the
lead screws and measured them. They are very close to the drawings
for these Bridgeport kits but for one dimension. The Y lead is
longer
than indicated for a 9" table. In fact, it matches the dimensions
for
the 12" Bridgeport table. The Y travel on my SuperMax is specified
at
12". Does anyone know the Y travels for Bridgeports with 9" and 12"
tables? Is anyone familiar with these Taiwan 9x42 mills having
longer
than normal Y travel? I suppose it could be a weird duck.
But for the above dilema I'm sure I will, at most, need to re-build
the bearing mounts on the ends of the tables and on the front. I
already plan to rebuild two of these to incorporate motor mounts so
this wouldn't be a big deal. I plan to order a Hiwin ball screw set
as soon as I convince myself exactly which lengths to get. There is
an 8-10 week lead for these directly from Hiwin, but for $150 to $300
savings......
As an update on my project, I have a computer up and running Red Hat
linux with the real time extension and EMC installed. It'll dual
boot
linux or MS-DOS so I can use other dos based CNC software if needed.
I plan to stay with EMC though unless I run into problems.
I've ordered Camtronics 3 axis 5A stepper driver boards and two size
34 stepper motors at 785 oz-in for the X/Y axes. I plan to get these
going and then design/build a spindle drive for the Z. I've received
a partial order with the rest to follow within the week. Haven't
started to build the drivers yet but so far the service from Dan
Mauch
at Camtronics is excellent.
I narrowed it down to Camtronics or Gecko stepper drives from
following the list and reading archived posts. The Camtronics route
(kit) was somewhat less expensive and I was a little worried about
the
microstepping of the Gecko drives. As I understand this, the
computer
needs to put out 10x the pulses for the equivalent motion of a full
step drive. I was a little worried about the speed but I may be
mistaken here. The Camtronics running half step should work well.
I plan to run X/Y via a 2:1 timing belt reduction but haven't sized
any of this yet. Will be in touch with progress and/or questions.
I do want to thank those on the list for the support. I don't think
I'd have had the confidence to undertake this without your support.
Thanks.
Hugh
If you remember, I'm trying to retrofit my Supermax knee mill for
CNC.
I'm currently (still) trying to verify that a Bridgeport ball screw
kit will work on my mill. From what I've found and measured it will
be far easier to start with a kit than with bare ball screws and nuts.
I've found kits manufactured by Nook (PowerTrac), Thomson Saginaw and
Hiwin. I've also found kits supplied through McMaster Carr,
Microkinetics and a mid west group GL Centroid. However, I don't
know
what manufacturer supplies these last three. The prices are all over
the map:
Nook +/- .001 "/ft $1665
Thomson Saginaw +/- .0005 "/ft $3821
Hiwin +/- .0005 "/ft $ 950
+/- .002 "/ft $ 600
McMaster Carr +/- .003 "/ft $ 742
Microkinetics +/- .003 "/ft $ 975
GL Centroid +/- ? $ 900
I thought the Thomson Saginaw were rolled threads but by the
tolerance
and cost they must be ground. I figure I must be getting a mix of
wholesale and retail prices??
But now for my question. My mill has a 9x42 table and I've pulled
the
lead screws and measured them. They are very close to the drawings
for these Bridgeport kits but for one dimension. The Y lead is
longer
than indicated for a 9" table. In fact, it matches the dimensions
for
the 12" Bridgeport table. The Y travel on my SuperMax is specified
at
12". Does anyone know the Y travels for Bridgeports with 9" and 12"
tables? Is anyone familiar with these Taiwan 9x42 mills having
longer
than normal Y travel? I suppose it could be a weird duck.
But for the above dilema I'm sure I will, at most, need to re-build
the bearing mounts on the ends of the tables and on the front. I
already plan to rebuild two of these to incorporate motor mounts so
this wouldn't be a big deal. I plan to order a Hiwin ball screw set
as soon as I convince myself exactly which lengths to get. There is
an 8-10 week lead for these directly from Hiwin, but for $150 to $300
savings......
As an update on my project, I have a computer up and running Red Hat
linux with the real time extension and EMC installed. It'll dual
boot
linux or MS-DOS so I can use other dos based CNC software if needed.
I plan to stay with EMC though unless I run into problems.
I've ordered Camtronics 3 axis 5A stepper driver boards and two size
34 stepper motors at 785 oz-in for the X/Y axes. I plan to get these
going and then design/build a spindle drive for the Z. I've received
a partial order with the rest to follow within the week. Haven't
started to build the drivers yet but so far the service from Dan
Mauch
at Camtronics is excellent.
I narrowed it down to Camtronics or Gecko stepper drives from
following the list and reading archived posts. The Camtronics route
(kit) was somewhat less expensive and I was a little worried about
the
microstepping of the Gecko drives. As I understand this, the
computer
needs to put out 10x the pulses for the equivalent motion of a full
step drive. I was a little worried about the speed but I may be
mistaken here. The Camtronics running half step should work well.
I plan to run X/Y via a 2:1 timing belt reduction but haven't sized
any of this yet. Will be in touch with progress and/or questions.
I do want to thank those on the list for the support. I don't think
I'd have had the confidence to undertake this without your support.
Thanks.
Hugh