Re: Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
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on 2001-05-23 20:59:35 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., JanRwl@A... wrote:
bang into the stator (toothy inside-gear thing), and chips of ALNICO,
etc., WILL break off and cause jamming, at least reduced function, and
will cause need of investing in Tylenol, etc.
worked for you ONCE or twice, NEVER assume it will "often work for
you", as that IMPORTANT motor will be > the one you mess-up! That is
Murphy's Stepper Motor Corollary.
I'm sorry you had bad luck with your 8-wire conversion.
I've converted probably 50-60 motors over the past
10 years, and I have not had a single one damaged
in the way that you describe. Perhaps I've just
been lucky. Or perhaps your problem was caused by
an -external- particle which found it's way into
the motor while you had it apart.
All of the step motors that I've worked on, and all
the hybrid motors that I'm aware of, have a VERY tiny
rotor-to-stator gap....typically only .001" or even
.0005". There simply isn't enough -distance- in these
motors for any sort of velocity to build up to 'bang'
the rotor into the stator.
Perhaps there are some motors with gaps big enough to
give room for that heavy rotor to accelerate to
damaging speeds; but I'm not aware of them.
Most of the motors I've converted were size-34 2 and
3 stack; with a few size-23 triple-stack and a couple
size-42 double-stack. Again, none were damaged in
any way.
It is certainly true that any particles of steel which
get into the motor have the potential to cause problems.
Note however, that many contaminant particles simply get
"ground up". In fact, as a point of interest, in
the most modern stepper motors, the gap is so small
that virtually -any- particle will engage both
rotor and stator; and you can feel it when you
turn the shaft.
The manufacturers state that this is a normal condition
and is not a cause for concern; as the torque of the
motor is much greater than the torque required to
'grind up' the particle; and the motor will in fact
do so the first few times it's run. That's straight
from 'the horse's mouth' i.e. the manufacturers we
OEM motors from.
best of luck with your projects,
Richard
> If the motor you "remove the end-cap" on has the bearing IN theend-cap, as all I have ever seen do, the armature (toothy magnet) WILL
bang into the stator (toothy inside-gear thing), and chips of ALNICO,
etc., WILL break off and cause jamming, at least reduced function, and
will cause need of investing in Tylenol, etc.
>"axially-parallel", NEVER take off the end-cap of a stepper! If it
> Without the "factory jigs" to hold the shaft and body
worked for you ONCE or twice, NEVER assume it will "often work for
you", as that IMPORTANT motor will be > the one you mess-up! That is
Murphy's Stepper Motor Corollary.
>howdy Jan,
> Jan Rowland, Troll
I'm sorry you had bad luck with your 8-wire conversion.
I've converted probably 50-60 motors over the past
10 years, and I have not had a single one damaged
in the way that you describe. Perhaps I've just
been lucky. Or perhaps your problem was caused by
an -external- particle which found it's way into
the motor while you had it apart.
All of the step motors that I've worked on, and all
the hybrid motors that I'm aware of, have a VERY tiny
rotor-to-stator gap....typically only .001" or even
.0005". There simply isn't enough -distance- in these
motors for any sort of velocity to build up to 'bang'
the rotor into the stator.
Perhaps there are some motors with gaps big enough to
give room for that heavy rotor to accelerate to
damaging speeds; but I'm not aware of them.
Most of the motors I've converted were size-34 2 and
3 stack; with a few size-23 triple-stack and a couple
size-42 double-stack. Again, none were damaged in
any way.
It is certainly true that any particles of steel which
get into the motor have the potential to cause problems.
Note however, that many contaminant particles simply get
"ground up". In fact, as a point of interest, in
the most modern stepper motors, the gap is so small
that virtually -any- particle will engage both
rotor and stator; and you can feel it when you
turn the shaft.
The manufacturers state that this is a normal condition
and is not a cause for concern; as the torque of the
motor is much greater than the torque required to
'grind up' the particle; and the motor will in fact
do so the first few times it's run. That's straight
from 'the horse's mouth' i.e. the manufacturers we
OEM motors from.
best of luck with your projects,
Richard
Discussion Thread
admin@a...
2001-05-10 19:08:49 UTC
Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-05-10 19:51:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
Tim Goldstein
2001-05-11 07:02:50 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
mariss92705@y...
2001-05-11 13:11:17 UTC
Re: Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
admin@a...
2001-05-11 15:20:53 UTC
Re: Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
stratton@m...
2001-05-12 07:44:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
mariss92705@y...
2001-05-12 08:43:06 UTC
Re: Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
Ian Wright
2001-05-12 09:48:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
mariss92705@y...
2001-05-12 10:30:04 UTC
Re: Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
Marty Escarcega
2001-05-13 12:23:06 UTC
EMC and second Parallel port/BOSS control
Brian Pitt
2001-05-13 17:11:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] EMC and second Parallel port/BOSS control
JanRwl@A...
2001-05-13 18:43:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers
admin@a...
2001-05-23 20:59:35 UTC
Re: Info from Ah-ha! on BOSS's/Motors/HVdrivers