Re: Basic stepper control question
Posted by
Tom Kulaga
on 2001-07-01 16:26:26 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@e..., Chris Stratton <stratton@m...> wrote:
did before leaving work Friday was to check that out. Other than the
counting, I turned a motor by hand while it was still on the device.
This thing is essentially a "tuner", and I monitored the output with
a frequency counter. Under CPU control, I saw 6KHz steps. By hand,
the best I could get was something like 25KHz. It was pretty
inconsistant, but definately averaging around 25KHz. If I tried
really hard, I could get it to settle elsewhere, but it was not a
sharply defined position.
Given that we're doing full steps, I figure I was seeing the step
size increase by a factor of 4, which implied we were only stable at
one of the 4 possible positions.
FYI: I just counted a motor here at home, and it has 200 very
defined stable positions per rev. The plot thickens...
Something else to chew on: The guy who's going to argue with me
about this also took it upon himself to disassemble/reassemble the
motors in order to get the coil/rotor combo he wanted, despite my
warnings about what manufacturers think about that sort of thing.
Could that explain what I'm seeing?
(Note to the group: I don't really want to debate the risks of
stepper disassembly. At home, I'll screw around like everyone else.
At work, I follow all the manufacturer's rules. Better safe than
sorry, especially when it's the boss's money).
link to. It also makes many references to the fact that you can lose
more steps in the power-up cycle, as opposed to power-down.
-Tom Kulaga
> Tom,the
>
> Sounds like you are going to have to find the stable positions of
> stepper and restrict the control to moving to one of them beforeI think you're right about the 200 steps, but the very last thing I
> powering down. I would have thought there are 200/revolution, but
> maybe there are only the fifty you can feel.
did before leaving work Friday was to check that out. Other than the
counting, I turned a motor by hand while it was still on the device.
This thing is essentially a "tuner", and I monitored the output with
a frequency counter. Under CPU control, I saw 6KHz steps. By hand,
the best I could get was something like 25KHz. It was pretty
inconsistant, but definately averaging around 25KHz. If I tried
really hard, I could get it to settle elsewhere, but it was not a
sharply defined position.
Given that we're doing full steps, I figure I was seeing the step
size increase by a factor of 4, which implied we were only stable at
one of the 4 possible positions.
FYI: I just counted a motor here at home, and it has 200 very
defined stable positions per rev. The plot thickens...
Something else to chew on: The guy who's going to argue with me
about this also took it upon himself to disassemble/reassemble the
motors in order to get the coil/rotor combo he wanted, despite my
warnings about what manufacturers think about that sort of thing.
Could that explain what I'm seeing?
(Note to the group: I don't really want to debate the risks of
stepper disassembly. At home, I'll screw around like everyone else.
At work, I follow all the manufacturer's rules. Better safe than
sorry, especially when it's the boss's money).
> One certain thing: none of the 2-phase-on positions are stable, asThis much I gathered from the Compumotor doc that Ballendo posted a
> they position the rotor halfway in between where either phase alone
> would want it.
link to. It also makes many references to the fact that you can lose
more steps in the power-up cycle, as opposed to power-down.
> I'd suggest you put a long pointer on a motor shaft, get a benchhand -
> supply set for appropriate current, and run the step sequences by
> power the winding, then disconnect.I just may try that. Depends how much time I can spare and how much convincing I need to do.
-Tom Kulaga
Discussion Thread
Tom Kulaga
2001-06-30 11:33:30 UTC
Basic stepper control question
Lee Studley
2001-06-30 12:44:40 UTC
Re: Basic stepper control question
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2001-06-30 12:57:44 UTC
Re: Basic stepper control question
Chris L
2001-06-30 13:17:21 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Basic stepper control question
JanRwl@A...
2001-06-30 13:35:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Basic stepper control question
Tom Kulaga
2001-06-30 18:53:29 UTC
Re: Basic stepper control question
Tom Kulaga
2001-06-30 19:01:47 UTC
Re: Basic stepper control question
Chris Stratton
2001-06-30 19:16:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Basic stepper control question
Tom Kulaga
2001-07-01 16:26:26 UTC
Re: Basic stepper control question
Kevin P. Martin
2001-07-03 07:27:26 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Basic stepper control question
kaynrc
2002-03-13 07:33:22 UTC
Re: Basic stepper control question
Tim Goldstein
2002-03-13 21:00:22 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Basic stepper control question