Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Philips Washing Machine Motors
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2002-02-01 23:01:40 UTC
James Owens wrote:
either brushless DC or AC induction motors. The Gecko drives are designed
for brush DC motors. There are special retrofit brushless DC motors that
have a special controller so they can be attached to servo amps for brush
motors, but they are quite exotic and rare.
Anyway, if I'm off base and these ARE brush motors, I think they are
somewhat wrong for the application. Since you get only 75 W (roughly
1/10 Hp) at the low speed, you will need to gear down a bit. But, since you
need 200 V to get full speed out of the motor, you will have to live with
about
4000 RPM, and you'll only get about 1/4 Hp peak (making some guesses).
I'd try them with a DC power supply and see what sort of torque/speed you
get at intermediate speeds, and decide what belt ratio to try. Something
around 4:1 might be the best match. I should note that I'm using 1/8 Hp
(continuous) rated motors, and going to 1/2 Hp or so peak, and these would
leave most CNC machinists complaining about low acceleration and rapid
traverse speeds. It's enough for me, though.
Jon
> Hi All,You can't (at least I don't think you can). I'm pretty sure these are
>
> I have some motors liberated from Philips washing machines. I intend using
> these as servo's, along with Gecko drivers and 400 line encoders, on my
> Bridgeport type milling machine. The plates are as follows:-
>
> 22 V 200
> 5 A 1.8
> 75 W 200
> 800 RPM 10500
> 85 rating 15 %
>
> These are DC voltages.
>
> As I understand it they will run from 22volts to 200volts @ 85% duty, which
> can be improved to 100% if I fit cooling.
>
> The Gecko Drivers are rated at 80volts max and I have been warned not to
> exceed this.
>
> My question is if I use these motors will the Gecko's do the job or am I
> looking for smaller motors.
either brushless DC or AC induction motors. The Gecko drives are designed
for brush DC motors. There are special retrofit brushless DC motors that
have a special controller so they can be attached to servo amps for brush
motors, but they are quite exotic and rare.
Anyway, if I'm off base and these ARE brush motors, I think they are
somewhat wrong for the application. Since you get only 75 W (roughly
1/10 Hp) at the low speed, you will need to gear down a bit. But, since you
need 200 V to get full speed out of the motor, you will have to live with
about
4000 RPM, and you'll only get about 1/4 Hp peak (making some guesses).
I'd try them with a DC power supply and see what sort of torque/speed you
get at intermediate speeds, and decide what belt ratio to try. Something
around 4:1 might be the best match. I should note that I'm using 1/8 Hp
(continuous) rated motors, and going to 1/2 Hp or so peak, and these would
leave most CNC machinists complaining about low acceleration and rapid
traverse speeds. It's enough for me, though.
Jon
Discussion Thread
James Owens
2002-02-01 16:17:50 UTC
Philips Washing Machine Motors
Jon Elson
2002-02-01 23:01:40 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Philips Washing Machine Motors
James Owens
2002-02-02 05:28:21 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Philips Washing Machine Motors