Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Question tuning G320 servoamps.
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2002-10-03 21:26:47 UTC
Erik Reikes wrote:
loop not being able to handle the sudden acceleration the motor is
capable of.
resonances you have. A higher-resolution encoder, or the provision
of a tachometer would help this problem. I WAS able to tune my analog
servos (fitted with DC tachs) to work fine with no load. They did require
some tuning when the motors were attached to the machine.
idea of instantaneous position error.
Jon
> Hello all,This is likely due to the motor not having a load, and the compensation
> I turned on my G320's last night and was playing around optimizing
> the settings. I'm not sure that I have a concise question, but I
> thought I'd share what I'm seeing so that others who might have had
> the same symptoms might comment.
>
> Some background : I am using some leeson 1/8HP DC motors with
> USDigital 100cpr encoders. It will hook up with a 2-1 reduction to a
> 10tpi leadscrew on my 3-1 machine. So, there are 8000 counts per
> inch which in theory will get me roughly 60ipm with Master5. The
> power supply is a Camtronics.
>
> First, is it realistic to try to setup the servos with no load
> attached? It seems to me that the load of the lead screws will
> significantly affect the dynamics of the feedback loop (i.e. it will
> change the transfer function and therefore the step and impulse
> responses significantly).
>
> Keep in mind I've just gotten started dialing them in and haven't
> attacked it with my Oscope yet. I didn't get it wired until about
> 2am last night.
>
> I'm noticing that when I give a jog command in Master5 that when
> the servo is accelerating it sort of does it in fits and starts. It
> basically starts moving then violently stops then continues
> acceleration. It does this a couple of times before it reaches
> speed.
loop not being able to handle the sudden acceleration the motor is
capable of.
> I suspect that it is the acceleration profile that Master5 isThe acceleration or rough acceleration ramp will excite any system
> outputting. It seemed to get slightly better as I lowered the
> acceleration rate from Master5. Adjusting the gain and damping had
> some effect but even at the minimum settings it still diplayed this
> symptom.
>
resonances you have. A higher-resolution encoder, or the provision
of a tachometer would help this problem. I WAS able to tune my analog
servos (fitted with DC tachs) to work fine with no load. They did require
some tuning when the motors were attached to the machine.
>I think the Geckos have an internal test point that allows you to see its
> When it is up to speed it is smooth. Tonight I will break out the
> scope and look for things like voltage droop on the input voltage
> line, and try to get a feel for what the pulse stream looks like. I
> played with the Master5 clibration tool, but I think I really need
> the whole machine hooked up for that to be useful.
idea of instantaneous position error.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Erik Reikes
2002-10-03 12:46:19 UTC
Question tuning G320 servoamps.
Tim Goldstein
2002-10-03 13:59:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Question tuning G320 servoamps.
vrsculptor
2002-10-03 15:32:20 UTC
Re: Question tuning G320 servoamps.
Tim Goldstein
2002-10-03 15:45:17 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Question tuning G320 servoamps.
Jon Elson
2002-10-03 21:26:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Question tuning G320 servoamps.
Erik Reikes
2002-10-03 23:41:03 UTC
Re: Question tuning G320 servoamp --> Figured it out!