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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics

Posted by alex
on 2003-05-06 15:35:23 UTC
Iain,
just want to add that yours or anybody else's suggestions and remarks in
this
group will be greatly appreciated, since for me this is a learning
opportunity.
Best regards, Alex
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From: alex <telecomt@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics


> Hi, Iain!
> This was my original question also.
> Jon Elson pointed out that G-codes generated for a mill or drill can be
> modified
> for punching application. According to Jon this is doable and I'll have to
> rely
> on his help and others for resolving this issue.
> I'm planning to do it with EMC which has good G-code support and also
> lots of talent in the group.
> Meanwhile I'm sketching mechanical parts so I could produce working
drawings
> sometime soon.
> The punching speed will entirely depend on the power of the compressor,
> probably
> it won't be high - may be 2 strokes per seconds at most with force of 1
ton.
> This is going to be a tabletop unit, since this is the only space I got
> around here,
> but I hope it will provide good experience for interfacing and such.
> I will place Unipunches (Unittools) on a rotary table and index with the
> stepper,
> as was advised by Jon also.
> Interestingly enough, it doesn't seem to be very difficult project, just
> putting
> many different parts together.
> Best regards, Alex
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 5:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics
>
>
> > Alex,
> > My former employer had several of the Amada NC high speed punch presses,
> > and they all had a flywheel and air clutch to power the punch.
> > Picture a horizontal tool changer, with 12 spring loaded tools and as a
> > tool was called up, it was rotated under the plunger.
> > The plunger is driven like the pistons on a steam train (or a drop
> > hammer for forging) and these beasts could hit 4 strokes/second, with a
> > max force of 50 ton.
> >
> > How would you control (or program) this little beast?
> >
> > I could see using something like TurboCNC to switch a relay or air
> > valve on and off (to engage/disengage the clutch) instead of using the Z
> > axis, with the other programming commands as per normal. Though you
> > would probably want to program a slight pause (2 or 3 strokes?) before
> > starting a G1 move.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Iain
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > alex wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, I repent!
> > > Last time I was involved with air was 1984. We built a fixture at
> Dunbell
> > > Industries (went under couple of years ago) and it was OK then...
> > > Looks like leverage is an answer now.
> > > Regards, Alex
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hllrsr@c... 2003-05-06 14:45:30 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics alex 2003-05-06 15:18:03 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics alex 2003-05-06 15:35:23 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics turbulatordude 2003-05-06 20:00:16 UTC Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics Chris L 2003-05-07 06:09:29 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics alex 2003-05-07 06:49:19 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics jim davies 2003-05-07 15:55:57 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics alex 2003-05-07 17:21:10 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics turbulatordude 2003-05-07 18:47:50 UTC Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics alex 2003-05-08 06:45:55 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics jim davies 2003-05-11 15:40:38 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics alex 2003-05-12 09:44:44 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics jim davies 2003-05-12 15:31:58 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics turbulatordude 2003-05-12 19:00:04 UTC Re: Punch Press, WAS surplus pneumatics