Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: VFD drive problems with older 3 phase motor?
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2003-12-26 08:22:08 UTC
Ted Inoue wrote:
odd. Usually, you can also program several points on the volts/Hz line.
Many drives have a minimum starting Hz point, like 1 Hz, and a minimum
voltage for it, like 10 V, then a midpoint, such as 125 V @ 30 Hz, and 240 V
@ 60 Hz for the upper end.
the phase wires in to 240 V power. If it hums loudly and stops, something
is wrong with the wiring or motor. If it accelerates slowly to
operating speed
(1 - 2 seconds) then you have it right. (It will accelerate faster with
proper
voltages on all 3 phases.)
Put them together and find out what the "zero" is, usually anywhere between
zero and one Ohm. Subtract that from the unknown reading to get a better
idea of the true value. You are measuring the DC resistance of the motor's
wire, that's all. The inductance and back-EMF of the motor, when running,
increase this value dramatically.
Jon
>aha! What you describe is almost exactly what I have measured. YourThe drive seems happy, but the motor does absolutely nothing? VERY
>diagram is the same as what I've drawn.
>
>The VFD drive I'm using is a TECO-Westinghouse FM100 driver. 1 phase,
>220V input, 3-phase output. The default settings of the drive seem
>reasonable, but there are so many that I'm not sure if I'm missing
>something in there. What are the key settings besides accel/decel and
>HP that I might need for basics? Also note - the unit doesn't appear
>to be tripping out or any such thing. From the display panel, the
>drive seems happy.
>
>
odd. Usually, you can also program several points on the volts/Hz line.
Many drives have a minimum starting Hz point, like 1 Hz, and a minimum
voltage for it, like 10 V, then a midpoint, such as 125 V @ 30 Hz, and 240 V
@ 60 Hz for the upper end.
>The motor plate indicates that it's a 220V motor. No option on theYou can just give the motor a good spin by hand and then plug any 2 of
>plate for 440V. But it is indeed a dual-speed unit.
>
>Before I pull the motor apart and rewire the windings, I'm going to
>try running it with the rotary converter I've got and ensure that
>everything works in its original configuration.
>
>
the phase wires in to 240 V power. If it hums loudly and stops, something
is wrong with the wiring or motor. If it accelerates slowly to
operating speed
(1 - 2 seconds) then you have it right. (It will accelerate faster with
proper
voltages on all 3 phases.)
>A question on winding resistance/impedance. Currently I'm measuringLow? Actually you are measuring the resistance of your meter's test leads.
>about 0.7 ohms for the windings. Is this typical? It seems really low!
>Especially if I rewire and get 1/4 the resistance. But I've not worked
>with motors of this size before.
>
>
Put them together and find out what the "zero" is, usually anywhere between
zero and one Ohm. Subtract that from the unknown reading to get a better
idea of the true value. You are measuring the DC resistance of the motor's
wire, that's all. The inductance and back-EMF of the motor, when running,
increase this value dramatically.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Robin Szemeti
2003-12-25 20:37:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] VFD drive problems with older 3 phase motor?
Ted Inoue
2003-12-26 05:25:18 UTC
Re: VFD drive problems with older 3 phase motor?
Jon Elson
2003-12-26 08:22:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: VFD drive problems with older 3 phase motor?
Dave Fisher
2003-12-26 08:32:05 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: VFD drive problems with older 3 phase motor?
Steven Ciciora
2003-12-27 06:09:37 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: VFD drive problems with older 3 phase motor?
Ted Inoue
2003-12-27 06:28:46 UTC
Re: VFD drive problems with older 3 phase motor? Working!
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2003-12-27 06:52:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: VFD drive problems with older 3 phase motor? Working!