Re: Xylotex or Gecko step driver for my Mill/Drill?
Posted by
treadlemill
on 2004-05-16 19:06:49 UTC
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I tried to run a small lathe with a very popular, at the time, 5amp
bipolar board with very dissappointing results. I used 6 wire
(center to end tapped) surplus motors recommended and purchased from
the supplier of the drive kit.
I gave up with it for several years than changed to an allegro
SLA7044 based unipolar board and the difference was astounding in
both smoothness and speed.
I cannot understand why some of the well intentioned advice I have
read goes against what I have actually experienced. Could it be that
many of the prejudices are based on the crude boards that were the
only ones affordable for the hobbyist at that time?
CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jon Elson <elson@p...> wrote:
I tried to run a small lathe with a very popular, at the time, 5amp
bipolar board with very dissappointing results. I used 6 wire
(center to end tapped) surplus motors recommended and purchased from
the supplier of the drive kit.
I gave up with it for several years than changed to an allegro
SLA7044 based unipolar board and the difference was astounding in
both smoothness and speed.
I cannot understand why some of the well intentioned advice I have
read goes against what I have actually experienced. Could it be that
many of the prejudices are based on the crude boards that were the
only ones affordable for the hobbyist at that time?
CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jon Elson <elson@p...> wrote:
>higher
>
> Roy J. Tellason wrote:
>
> >On Saturday 15 May 2004 11:05 pm, Jon Elson wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>>but I ruled that one out because it's a unipolar only board.
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >>Good move, as most unipolar drives are very poor performers at
> >>speedscoils in the
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Why is that?
> >
> >Would it have something to do with a bipolar setup energizing
> >reverse direction rather than just turning them off?drive,
> >
> >
> >
> Yup, that is basically the problem. With the typical unipolar
> the powerend or the
> source is connected to the center tap, and transistors ground one
> other of the winding. When you ground one end, there is stillcirculating
> current in the other half, fighting the field you are trying tobuild in the
> newly powered winding. This energy has to go somewhere, and itends
> up being burned off in some diode-resistor arrangement. It is ahard
> topology to harvest this energy constructively. If there is noresistor,
> the current in the shut-off winding dies very slowly. If there isa
> resistor,winding,
> then it gets quite hot at high step rates.
>
> With a bipolar drive, the power source is applied across the whole
> and is reversed to reverse the field. The field already in thewinding
> opposes the power source at the moment the transistors areswitched,
> and the reversed voltage across the winding collapses the existingfield
> and quickly builds it again in the opposite direction. The energymostly
> ends up back in the power supply, so there are no big resistors toburn
> off the left-over field.complicated than
>
> There are ways around this, but they are generally more
> the bipolar drive scheme. The only advantage to unipolar is itsaves a
> 4 transistors per motor.
>
> Jon
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2004-05-18 09:17:21 UTC
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