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> art- u aren't gonna be able to teach john galt about
> the virtues of capitalism.
> i wrote the book.
> u must take lessons from ME.
>
>
> --- art <_fenerty@..._ (mailto:fenerty@...) > wrote:
>
> > Juan:
> >
> > This is all very offtopic, so I will respond only
> > this occasion. I dont
> > get to read here except every
> > week or two, so dont respond, you'll just tie up
> > valuable resource space
> > here for those doing actual CNC work..
> >
> > Your comments are typical of the pirate
> > community, everything should be
> > free, and no-one should pay for software. And thats
> > a great thing, itd be
> > nice too if money grew on tree's and all stores were
> > simply take as you
> > wish, no need to pay anything. Utopian paradise!! .
> >
> > However, growth is killed by such things. I spend
> > approximatly 10 hours
> > each day, seven days a week supporting Mach3, both
> > in writing code, and
> > running support functions. I pay about $60,000US per
> > year in payments to
> > individuals like myself and overhead costs to do
> > this. Mach3 is sold in
> > about 30 Countries, with an OEM distributership
> > program with over 2 dozen
> > distributers in various countries.
> > The time and resources to run even a small company
> > such as mine is
> > suprising in its complexity and resource usage.
> > Literally thousands of
> > people have been helped and guided into CNC through
> > the Mach series and
> > while Im probably the most knowledable on the
> > shortcomings of Mach, and the
> > things I need to do to make it more robust, the fact
> > is, it helps alot of
> > people. If everyone thought as you, Mach3 would not
> > exist. When its costs
> > exceed its revenues, it will cease to exist. Its
> > really that simple.
> >
> > There are those that selflessly donate their time
> > to writing code and
> > releasing programs for free. (EMC for example) That,
> > however, takes a great
> > many dedicated and talented people, few would be
> > willing to write complex
> > source code for people such as yourself . If you
> > truly believe your mantra,
> > how about this.. Take 10 years of your life, study
> > hard each day, write tens
> > of thousands of lines of code, then release the
> > program for free. Help each
> > of the over 100 people each day that will contact
> > you for guidence, help or
> > just a sympathetic ear for their problems,find
> > dedicated, talented and very
> > selfless poeple to aid in documentation, videos ,
> > and other support
> > information collation. find equally talented poeple
> > to take care of web
> > sites and forums. Find the same sort of people to
> > aid in support from
> > several directions such as additive forums, more to
> > do support functions for
> > industry and screen design theory for industry.
> > Basically become a hermit
> > devoted to doing what you love to do. Then ..while
> > your giving this away..
> > go to the fridge and have an imaginary drink to cool
> > off,(oh my..its
> > empty..). But Im sure the great feeling of
> > protecting the proletariat from
> > capitalistic ideals will quench your thirst. Youll
> > know that all the work
> > you do is fully appreciated by people such as
> > yourself, who while they decry
> > capitalism, live of the fruits of others labours and
> > add basically nothing
> > to the equation, your life is well worth giving up
> > for their comfort or
> > amusement after all.
> >
> > Listen, Bud, I have no great problem with
> > Piracy, it exists, and in many
> > ways, helps to spread the word about what my
> > software can do, and makes
> > others want to purchase it. You can teach me nothing
> > about piracy, I come
> > from a very dark programming background. Just as
> > musical bands today are
> > finding that music piracy has helped to grow their
> > fan base, I have found
> > that piracy also increases the amount of people
> > using Mach3. Eventually,
> > almost every pirate buys a license. I get dozens of
> > letters from people
> > admitting they have been using cracked versions, and
> > deciding to jump in as
> > a fully licensed user. I welcome them to the group.
> > But be warned that in
> > life there is no free ride. While a hardware maker
> > is better protected as
> > one has to do a great deal of work to copy hardware,
> > software copying is
> > easy. Mach3 is, however, better protected than many
> > suspect. My background
> > makes me something of an expert in software
> > protection.. better than most. I
> > could easily make the protection daunting, and
> > dangerous, after all, Im
> > controlling a machine here, its very easy to allow
> > it to destroy a job it
> > senses as intricate. Or I could make it work only on
> > one computer, with web
> > accessable key technology. I refuse to do so, my
> > licenseing is about as
> > liberal as it gets, free updates, never pay again
> > licensing with multiple
> > computer support puts me in a class far removed from
> > Microsoft.. Fact is,
> > your preaching to the wrong choir here on piracy,
> > the people here appreciate
> > new things, and higher capabilities, and they know
> > licensing fuels that
> > engine. Were more people like yourself, we'd all be
> > using DOS, and very
> > limited capability programs. No-one would write
> > anything that is
> > downloadable, so while people like you have a place
> > in this process, its
> > limited to being a bad example of how to run things,
> > and a perfect example
> > of how to make everyones life more difficult. So fer
> > gods sake, if your
> > gonna pirate, go ahead, pirate, but dont brag about
> > it, its really not much
> > of an accomplishment, a monkey with a keyboard can
> > pirate... Tells us about
> > your accomplishements when you actually have some
> > and have something to be
> > proud of, Ill never get rich with my pricing and
> > licensing policies, but I
> > do have a huge amount of pride in what Ive done, and
> > the people Ive
> > helped....even such as yourself...
> >
> >
> > (Sorry for the OT guys.. I just felt the need to
> > respond to this one. :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Art
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Art
> > _www.artofcnc.ca_ (http://www.artofcnc.ca)
> >
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