Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam
Posted by
Ejay Hire
on 2000-07-31 10:23:46 UTC
Hmm, I don't suppose we could talk you out of any of those De-commisioned
SGI machines?
Have to ask, it's scrounger law.
EjayHire@...
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From: "Bill Griffin" <bill@...>
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Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:11:52 -0700
This is a very good description of ProE with the exception of:
"Also, it will run (like poop) on an NT box"
While the performance may be higher on the high end Unix workstations, it
most certainly doesn't run like poop on high end NT workstations. We have
about 15 seats of ProE and they are all running on NT boxes. We started out
running them on silicon graphics boxes but have decommissioned all of them.
We do use video boards that cost more the the average 800 MHz Pentium
computer, but that is besides the point.
Also, we do not design rocket engines for flight to Pluto, so our
computational needs are probably not the same as some users.
Bill Griffin
Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:30:57 EDT
From: johndroc@...
Subject: Re: cad/cam
ProE is a feature-based parametric modeling program that is made by
(appropriately enough) Parametric Technologies. It is a very high-end
package, in the ranks of UniGraphics or CATIA. For similar low end
technology, there's Mechanical Desktop (I don't know if Rhino will do
parametric modeling, I don't think so), but they don't begin to be
comparable. In a nutshell, it enables the designer to create geometries
with
constant values or relational values (equations). For example, you could
create a cylinder with a constant radius R and a variable height H. Then
you
could link the values in a volume equation and set it equal to a set volume,
which would automatically designate the height. Then, if you changed the
radius, it would auotmatically change the height to maintain the set
volume..
Likewise, in a layout, if you drew a handle on the cylinder and constrained
it to the top and bottom edge, its size would change as well. This is a
very
rudimentary explanation, ProE is one of the most powerful software packages
I've ever worked with. When I was at RPI 9 (hundred) years ago, they
received a grant from PT and Sun, so it was available. As far as a copy -
good luck - last I checked a basic ProE seat was $15K+ and it goes up
exponentially when you start adding components. Also, it will run (like
poop) on an NT box, but the best I've seen it run was on Sun and IBM RISC
systems. There are a bunch of components, too. Check out the Parametric
Technologies web site, for more info.
-John
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<DIV>This is a very good description of ProE with the exception
of:<BR>"Also, it will run (like poop) on an NT box"<BR>While the
performance may be higher on the high end Unix workstations,
it<BR>most
certainly doesn't run like poop on high end NT workstations. We
have<BR>about 15
seats of ProE and they are all running on NT boxes. We started
out<BR>running
them on silicon graphics boxes but have decommissioned all of them.<BR>We do
use
video boards that cost more the the average 800 MHz Pentium<BR>computer, but
that is besides the point.<BR>Also, we do not design rocket engines for
flight
to Pluto, so our<BR>computational needs are probably not the same as some
users.<BR><BR>Bill Griffin<BR><BR><BR>Message: 4<BR> Date: Sun,
30
Jul 2000 23:30:57 EDT<BR> From: <A
href="mailto:johndroc@...">johndroc@...</A><BR>Subject: Re:
cad/cam<BR><BR>ProE is a feature-based parametric modeling program that is
made
by<BR>(appropriately enough) Parametric Technologies. It is a very
high-end<BR>package, in the ranks of UniGraphics or CATIA. For similar
low
end<BR>technology, there's Mechanical Desktop (I don't know if Rhino will
do<BR>parametric modeling, I don't think so), but they don't begin to
be<BR>comparable. In a nutshell, it enables the designer to create
geometries<BR>with<BR>constant values or relational values
(equations).
For example, you could<BR>create a cylinder with a constant radius R and a
variable height H. Then<BR>you<BR>could link the values in a volume
equation and set it equal to a set volume,<BR>which would automatically
designate the height. Then, if you changed the<BR>radius, it would
auotmatically change the height to maintain the set<BR>volume..<BR>Likewise,
in
a layout, if you drew a handle on the cylinder and constrained<BR>it to the
top
and bottom edge, its size would change as well. This is
a<BR>very<BR>rudimentary explanation, ProE is one of the most powerful
software
packages<BR>I've ever worked with. When I was at RPI 9 (hundred) years
ago, they<BR>received a grant from PT and Sun, so it was available. As
far
as a copy -<BR>good luck - last I checked a basic ProE seat was $15K+ and it
goes up<BR>exponentially when you start adding components. Also, it
will
run (like<BR>poop) on an NT box, but the best I've seen it run was on Sun
and
IBM RISC<BR>systems. There are a bunch of components, too. Check
out
the Parametric<BR>Technologies web site, for more
info.<BR><BR>-John<BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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SGI machines?
Have to ask, it's scrounger law.
EjayHire@...
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From: "Bill Griffin" <bill@...>
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To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com>
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:11:52 -0700
This is a very good description of ProE with the exception of:
"Also, it will run (like poop) on an NT box"
While the performance may be higher on the high end Unix workstations, it
most certainly doesn't run like poop on high end NT workstations. We have
about 15 seats of ProE and they are all running on NT boxes. We started out
running them on silicon graphics boxes but have decommissioned all of them.
We do use video boards that cost more the the average 800 MHz Pentium
computer, but that is besides the point.
Also, we do not design rocket engines for flight to Pluto, so our
computational needs are probably not the same as some users.
Bill Griffin
Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:30:57 EDT
From: johndroc@...
Subject: Re: cad/cam
ProE is a feature-based parametric modeling program that is made by
(appropriately enough) Parametric Technologies. It is a very high-end
package, in the ranks of UniGraphics or CATIA. For similar low end
technology, there's Mechanical Desktop (I don't know if Rhino will do
parametric modeling, I don't think so), but they don't begin to be
comparable. In a nutshell, it enables the designer to create geometries
with
constant values or relational values (equations). For example, you could
create a cylinder with a constant radius R and a variable height H. Then
you
could link the values in a volume equation and set it equal to a set volume,
which would automatically designate the height. Then, if you changed the
radius, it would auotmatically change the height to maintain the set
volume..
Likewise, in a layout, if you drew a handle on the cylinder and constrained
it to the top and bottom edge, its size would change as well. This is a
very
rudimentary explanation, ProE is one of the most powerful software packages
I've ever worked with. When I was at RPI 9 (hundred) years ago, they
received a grant from PT and Sun, so it was available. As far as a copy -
good luck - last I checked a basic ProE seat was $15K+ and it goes up
exponentially when you start adding components. Also, it will run (like
poop) on an NT box, but the best I've seen it run was on Sun and IBM RISC
systems. There are a bunch of components, too. Check out the Parametric
Technologies web site, for more info.
-John
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<DIV>This is a very good description of ProE with the exception
of:<BR>"Also, it will run (like poop) on an NT box"<BR>While the
performance may be higher on the high end Unix workstations,
it<BR>most
certainly doesn't run like poop on high end NT workstations. We
have<BR>about 15
seats of ProE and they are all running on NT boxes. We started
out<BR>running
them on silicon graphics boxes but have decommissioned all of them.<BR>We do
use
video boards that cost more the the average 800 MHz Pentium<BR>computer, but
that is besides the point.<BR>Also, we do not design rocket engines for
flight
to Pluto, so our<BR>computational needs are probably not the same as some
users.<BR><BR>Bill Griffin<BR><BR><BR>Message: 4<BR> Date: Sun,
30
Jul 2000 23:30:57 EDT<BR> From: <A
href="mailto:johndroc@...">johndroc@...</A><BR>Subject: Re:
cad/cam<BR><BR>ProE is a feature-based parametric modeling program that is
made
by<BR>(appropriately enough) Parametric Technologies. It is a very
high-end<BR>package, in the ranks of UniGraphics or CATIA. For similar
low
end<BR>technology, there's Mechanical Desktop (I don't know if Rhino will
do<BR>parametric modeling, I don't think so), but they don't begin to
be<BR>comparable. In a nutshell, it enables the designer to create
geometries<BR>with<BR>constant values or relational values
(equations).
For example, you could<BR>create a cylinder with a constant radius R and a
variable height H. Then<BR>you<BR>could link the values in a volume
equation and set it equal to a set volume,<BR>which would automatically
designate the height. Then, if you changed the<BR>radius, it would
auotmatically change the height to maintain the set<BR>volume..<BR>Likewise,
in
a layout, if you drew a handle on the cylinder and constrained<BR>it to the
top
and bottom edge, its size would change as well. This is
a<BR>very<BR>rudimentary explanation, ProE is one of the most powerful
software
packages<BR>I've ever worked with. When I was at RPI 9 (hundred) years
ago, they<BR>received a grant from PT and Sun, so it was available. As
far
as a copy -<BR>good luck - last I checked a basic ProE seat was $15K+ and it
goes up<BR>exponentially when you start adding components. Also, it
will
run (like<BR>poop) on an NT box, but the best I've seen it run was on Sun
and
IBM RISC<BR>systems. There are a bunch of components, too. Check
out
the Parametric<BR>Technologies web site, for more
info.<BR><BR>-John<BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Ejay Hire
2000-07-31 10:23:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam
Joe Vicars
2000-07-31 11:35:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam
Ejay Hire
2000-07-31 14:59:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam