Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam

on 2000-07-31 14:59:01 UTC

Where are you located?

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From: Joe Vicars <jvicars@...>
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Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:47:43 -0500

You can have the machines, I just want the video cards.

Ejay Hire wrote:

> Hmm, I don't suppose we could talk you out of any of those De-commisioned
> SGI machines?
>
> Have to ask, it's scrounger law.
> EjayHire@...
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Bill Griffin" <bill@...>
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> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com>
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam
> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:11:52 -0700
>
> This is a very good description of ProE with the exception of:
> "Also, it will run (like poop) on an NT box"
> While the performance may be higher on the high end Unix workstations,

> most certainly doesn't run like poop on high end NT workstations. We have
> about 15 seats of ProE and they are all running on NT boxes. We started

out

> running them on silicon graphics boxes but have decommissioned all of

them.

> We do use video boards that cost more the the average 800 MHz Pentium
> computer, but that is besides the point.
> Also, we do not design rocket engines for flight to Pluto, so our
> computational needs are probably not the same as some users.
>
> Bill Griffin
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:30:57 EDT
> From: johndroc@...
> Subject: Re: cad/cam
>
> ProE is a feature-based parametric modeling program that is made by
> (appropriately enough) Parametric Technologies. It is a very high-end
> package, in the ranks of UniGraphics or CATIA. For similar low end
> technology, there's Mechanical Desktop (I don't know if Rhino will do
> parametric modeling, I don't think so), but they don't begin to be
> comparable. In a nutshell, it enables the designer to create geometries
> with
> constant values or relational values (equations). For example, you could
> create a cylinder with a constant radius R and a variable height H. Then
> you
> could link the values in a volume equation and set it equal to a set

volume,

> which would automatically designate the height. Then, if you changed the
> radius, it would auotmatically change the height to maintain the set
> volume..
> Likewise, in a layout, if you drew a handle on the cylinder and

constrained

> it to the top and bottom edge, its size would change as well. This is a
> very
> rudimentary explanation, ProE is one of the most powerful software

packages

> I've ever worked with. When I was at RPI 9 (hundred) years ago, they
> received a grant from PT and Sun, so it was available. As far as a copy

> good luck - last I checked a basic ProE seat was $15K+ and it goes up
> exponentially when you start adding components. Also, it will run (like
> poop) on an NT box, but the best I've seen it run was on Sun and IBM RISC
> systems. There are a bunch of components, too. Check out the Parametric
> Technologies web site, for more info.
>
> -John
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> <DIV>This is a very good description of ProE with the exception
> of: "Also, it will run (like poop) on an NT box" While

the

> performance may be higher on the high end Unix workstations,
> it most
> certainly doesn't run like poop on high end NT workstations. We
> have about 15
> seats of ProE and they are all running on NT boxes. We started
> out running
> them on silicon graphics boxes but have decommissioned all of them. We

> use
> video boards that cost more the the average 800 MHz Pentium computer,

but

> that is besides the point. Also, we do not design rocket engines for
> flight
> to Pluto, so our computational needs are probably not the same as some
> users. Bill Griffin Message: 4 Date:

Sun,

> 30
> Jul 2000 23:30:57 EDT From: <A
> href="mailto:johndroc@...">johndroc@...</A> Subject: Re:
> cad/cam ProE is a feature-based parametric modeling program that

> made
> by (appropriately enough) Parametric Technologies. It is a very
> high-end package, in the ranks of UniGraphics or CATIA. For

similar

> low
> end technology, there's Mechanical Desktop (I don't know if Rhino will
> do parametric modeling, I don't think so), but they don't begin to
> be comparable. In a nutshell, it enables the designer to create
> geometries with constant values or relational values
> (equations).
> For example, you could create a cylinder with a constant radius R and

> variable height H. Then you could link the values in a volume
> equation and set it equal to a set volume, which would automatically
> designate the height. Then, if you changed the radius, it would
> auotmatically change the height to maintain the

set volume.. Likewise,

> in
> a layout, if you drew a handle on the cylinder and constrained it to

the

> top
> and bottom edge, its size would change as well. This is
> a very rudimentary explanation, ProE is one of the most powerful
> software
> packages I've ever worked with. When I was at RPI 9 (hundred)

years

> ago, they received a grant from PT and Sun, so it was available.

> far
> as a copy - good luck - last I checked a basic ProE seat was $15K+ and

> goes up exponentially when you start adding components. Also, it
> will
> run (like poop) on an NT box, but the best I've seen it run was on Sun
> and
> IBM RISC systems. There are a bunch of components, too.

Check

> out
> the Parametric Technologies web site, for more
> info. -John </DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Ejay Hire 2000-07-31 10:23:46 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam Joe Vicars 2000-07-31 11:35:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam Ejay Hire 2000-07-31 14:59:01 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: cad/cam