Re: Tool change also smart/dumb boxes
Posted by
ballendo@y...
on 2000-12-11 15:24:25 UTC
Hi.
I just read Rays' excellent post and Smokes' response, and all the
sudden I realised (when Ray pointed out EMC tool change support
capabilities):
There is NO provision for 'telling' a toolchanger mechanism 'which'
tool we want in almost every CNC S/W pkg. mentioned on this list!
Many have a "toolchange' command (M06) and some have a "toolchange"
location, but where is the info for WHICH tool to change?! They
nearly ALL assume manual change!
Most also support a list of tools 'mapped' to tool numbers with the
gcode "T" word. But there is no ACCESS to which T number is active,
or sought, that could be used by a toolchange mechanism to select the
desired tool.
This would certainly be desirable in a smart black box, and a useful
provision (I/O bit count) in a dumb box!
3 bits selects 7 tools, 4 bits = 15 tools, etc. (assumes 0 is no tool)
If the tool changer is 'somewhat' smart, then it could use a serial
command set and protocol, using only one bit.
Possible feature-itis? Yes. I'm just surprised I haven't run into
this before. Most of my experience is multiple heads and 'go to a
certain position/slot' tool changes.
Hope this helps.
Ballendo
P.S. Thinking out loud: I suppose this is another case where the
machine (at the expense of time) could move and press an index button
X number of times to bring the tool(carousel) into position. Lot of
extra toolpath, and possibility of crash if the 'index' doesn't :-(,
but it does get around the problem...
I just read Rays' excellent post and Smokes' response, and all the
sudden I realised (when Ray pointed out EMC tool change support
capabilities):
There is NO provision for 'telling' a toolchanger mechanism 'which'
tool we want in almost every CNC S/W pkg. mentioned on this list!
Many have a "toolchange' command (M06) and some have a "toolchange"
location, but where is the info for WHICH tool to change?! They
nearly ALL assume manual change!
Most also support a list of tools 'mapped' to tool numbers with the
gcode "T" word. But there is no ACCESS to which T number is active,
or sought, that could be used by a toolchange mechanism to select the
desired tool.
This would certainly be desirable in a smart black box, and a useful
provision (I/O bit count) in a dumb box!
3 bits selects 7 tools, 4 bits = 15 tools, etc. (assumes 0 is no tool)
If the tool changer is 'somewhat' smart, then it could use a serial
command set and protocol, using only one bit.
Possible feature-itis? Yes. I'm just surprised I haven't run into
this before. Most of my experience is multiple heads and 'go to a
certain position/slot' tool changes.
Hope this helps.
Ballendo
P.S. Thinking out loud: I suppose this is another case where the
machine (at the expense of time) could move and press an index button
X number of times to bring the tool(carousel) into position. Lot of
extra toolpath, and possibility of crash if the 'index' doesn't :-(,
but it does get around the problem...
Discussion Thread
ballendo@y...
2000-12-11 15:24:25 UTC
Re: Tool change also smart/dumb boxes
diazden
2000-12-11 15:44:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Tool change also smart/dumb boxes
Smoke
2000-12-11 16:19:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Tool change also smart/dumb boxes
Jon Elson
2000-12-11 16:29:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Tool change also smart/dumb boxes
Bill Griffin
2000-12-11 20:37:23 UTC
Re: Re: Tool change also smart/dumb boxes
Bill Griffin
2000-12-11 20:39:25 UTC
Re: Re: Tool change also smart/dumb boxes