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Re: extreme accuracy for cnc jewelry

Posted by Terry Ackland
on 2001-01-10 18:11:47 UTC
---Doug,
All the figures for resolution of course mean very little because
they do not take into account such things as cutter deflection and
the
slack required in sliding parts to allow them to actually move.
T. Ackland
In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com, Doug Fortune <pentam@h...> wrote:
> thomasm923@a... wrote:
>
> > Hello-
> >
> > This is my first post to this facinating group. I am am jewelry
model-
> > maker and hope to build a cnc mill sometime in the future. I have
> > plenty of questions to ask but I'll keep this post brief.
> >
> > If I ever learn enough to attemp to build my own machine, I would
> > like the machine to have the following qualities: moderate speed,
> > high resolution, and accuracy. I have been reading about micro-
> > stepping as a way to getting higher resolution, however I am
> > concerned that the micro-steps are really not that accurate.
>
> Please consider the use of "differential threads" (see my original
> posting 10Aug2000 complete with C source code). This technique
> is impractical for large movements (ie over an inch or two) because
> of the huge mechanical advantage given. On the other hand, you
> can use tiny steppers directly coupled to the shafts.
>
> An exerpt:
>
> I've been playing with different mechanical leveraging ideas
> to be used both for direct movement of the table and as a
> way to increase the resolution of rotary encoders
> ( see 11 Apr 2000 "motion-multiplying pulleys: linear to rotary
encoder")
>
> .....
>
> Well I came across another VERY interesting page at:
> http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hall/4425/ Marvin W.
Klotz
>
> which has lots of (DOS) programs (source code & executables)
> to aid the machinist. It is well worth your time to look it over.
>
> One of the gems there is a description of "differential threads",
> wherein various combinations of course and fine threads acting
> together differentially, can create huge mechanical leverages
> (or counts/rev for encoders).
>
> This is great for us, because it may give us the capability of
having
> HUGE number of steps per inch of advancement. For example,
> using a 180 step/rev stepper with at 10 microstep driver like the
> Geckodrive (ie 1800 steps/rev), then using a 56 TPI course and a
> Metric 56.444 TPI (ie 0.45 mm/thread), then you'd get 12,801,539
> turns per inch, or an advance ratio of 7.81E-8 inch per step
(0.000
000 0781 ").
>
> A more usable example is using a 28 TPI with the above metric thread
> to get 100012.493134 steps/inch (or approx 0.000 01" per step).
>
> With such ratio's as these, there should be no requirement to use
> pulleys to increase leverage, so the motor can direct drive the
shaft.
>
> There are of course some interesting "details", which I leave up to
> the "sufficiently curious".
>
> By using some of Marvin Klotz's thread tables and differential
thread
> formula:
>
> pc = coarse pitch (tpi)
> pf = fine pitch (tpi)
> pe = effective pitch of differential thread (tpi)
>
> (1/pe) = (1/pc) - (1/pf)
>
> I whipped up a program to compute all the different ratios one could
> expect from different thread combinations. The idea is to sort the
output
> and discover the proper combination to use to achieve a ratio near
what
> you desire.
>
> Doug Fortune

Discussion Thread

Doug Fortune 2001-01-09 22:58:04 UTC extreme accuracy for cnc jewelry Smoke 2001-01-10 06:01:30 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] extreme accuracy for cnc jewelry Terry Ackland 2001-01-10 17:45:59 UTC Re: extreme accuracy for cnc jewelry Terry Ackland 2001-01-10 18:11:47 UTC Re: extreme accuracy for cnc jewelry Doug Fortune 2001-01-10 18:49:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: extreme accuracy for cnc jewelry ron ginger 2001-01-11 08:17:05 UTC Re: extreme accuracy for cnc jewelry Larry Van Duyn 2001-01-11 08:34:00 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: extreme accuracy for cnc jewelry