Bridge. Trace. List + John Stevenson

Hello list,

A big thank you to all who replied, I hadn't really thought that the
delivery would be so much more than the mill itself when I posted the
message (I was thinking more of how cheap it looked).

John, did you find those mills from a place in the UK selling them on or
somewhere chucking them for newer stuff? The only place I've EVER seen that
has a web site is quite a flashy looking place that sells on old factory
equipment quite cheap (Any idea which one I'm thinking of?) It's name is Em
something, like English Machinery... I can't remember it was so long ago. I
took a look at the picture. £400! and they work fine? What kind of
tolerances would you get with them?

What is tax relief? Does the goverment pay the V.A.T and then 22.5% for
the mill to the seller for you? I wouldn't have to prove I'd be using the
mill to actually build things I'm going to sell as a buisness would I? This
is proberly a really stupid question but would that mean I would also get
40% off something like a Sherline on CNC or does it have to be older second
hand equipment?
I had no idea our goverment would 'pay' me to have fun. On a finishing
note I should remind you all in the UK it's Census time. Don't forget, your
religion is Jedi! If 10,000 of us are Jedi's it will become a registered
religion! Seriously! Imagine how proud the kids would be next time The
Empire Strikes Back is on. I wonder if it'd be on the form as well.......

Thanks again,
John H

>[To save your eyes and sense of reality this is mainly for people who know

about Bridgeport mills or have one]

>
>Hello CNC'ers,
>
> I've been looking about and found a Bridgeport duplicator mill, it

comes with the Tru-Trace 3D hydraulic controller and 2 J style heads. I've
never seen this particular mill >before, I'm very new to the whole idea of
mills (I don't own one yet). So, prepare youself as I unlesh an entire
universe of questions:

>

John,
I think you need to look at the logistics of this a bit more deeply.
You are talking about moving a very heavy from the USA to the UK
Shipping costs would be about $5,000 to $8,000 alone.
Add this to the cost of the machine and you will finish up with a very
expensive piece of equipment that has no real worth in this country.

Why not look in the UK.
At the moment because of the 40% tax relief offered by the Government on
new CNC equipment in an effort to get engineering moving again there is a
surplus of older, non competitive equipment laying about out there.
Machine tool dealers don't want it as who are they going to sell an older
machine to ?

This is fact. Look at :-
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/_2000_retired_files/both.jpg
These are two CNC's I bought last year for 400 UKP each, that's about $600.
These are not unique, I also found for someone else a Matchmaker 4 axis
machine for 500 UKP and believe it or not a MK1 Bridgeport free for the
collection.
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Regards,
John Stevenson
Nottingham, England