Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] genius, stupids or bastards?

Marcus
that is exactly what I thought yesterday and why I work
practicaly alone since 1993.
Good Luck
Sven Peter

Marcus & Eva wrote:

> Hi Sven:
> THIS is why I have a one man shop!!!
> It's amazing just how many ways things can go wrong when there are too many
> cooks stirring in the soup pot.
>
> You have my sympathy.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marcus
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sven Peter, TAD S.A. <peteryco@...>
> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:07 PM
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] genius, stupids or bastards?
>
> >Hello Friends,
> >Excuse me if this is way of interest, but I need to cry it out!
> >What are costarican electricians?
> >Genius, Stupid or Bastards?
> >I have no idea.
> >I was contracted to put a Guillotine for wood again to work,
> >that had no electrical wiring at all.
> >
> >So I made a plan, programed a Siemens Logo mini PLC.
> >Thought the factories main electrician how to program and how he can
> >change parameters. At least instructed him how to make the installation.
> >
> >Confiding in him I let him make the main part of the job. the other
> >electrician
> >was on charge for to get the spare parts. And I came in everyday for
> >supervision.
> >The job became longer and longer instead of 3 days we spent now 8 days
> >in installation. Spare part delay, new wishes, maximum easiness for
> >maintenance, more LED's for simple failure detection, etc., etc., bla
> >bla bla.....
> >
> >Finally yesterday started my real part of the job. >> getting out the
> >bugs in
> >hydraulics and electric's.
> >Today the main electrician was ill.
> >And after having changed the presostat and a pressure regulating valve
> >things started to become strange. I could initiate valves although the
> >pump
> >wasn't switched on. The enough pressure light didn't go of and the
> >safety fuse of the Logo blew.
> >"Something is going wrong!!!"
> >Auxiliary relays that worked yesterday didn't pull and the Logo gave me
> >the
> >alarm for unlogical states.
> >And I started to have a look.
> >After I found some 10 loose cables, genius connections of the hydraulic
> >valves through the Logo's 100 mA fuse and ground where the T-line was
> >supposed to be, I simply threw away the work of 4 days.
> >And pulled out most auxiliary relays and rely just on the Logo's relays.
> >
> >In 2 1/2 hours the restructuration was done. But afterwards the
> >electrical bugs
> >continued. And I continued finding nonsense.
> >Now I really ask myself: " Do these people think they are genius and
> >have to reinvent he wheel? Is it simply negligence at work? Are they
> >simply stupid?
> >Or do I deal with bastards who make sabotage?"
> >
> >I fear all ideas have some truth here.
> >I will need at least 1 or 2 days to clean up the mess.
> >
> >Obviously I made my own mistakes too. But I respond for them.
> >And this time will learn my lesson!!!
> >From now on I definitely will make my job of my own and will not trust
> >anymore in someone elses work.
> >
> >OK, I blamed enough and feel better now.
> >So everybody don't take it harsh and have a nice weekend.
> >
> >Good luck
> >Sven Peter
> >
> >
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