Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] genius, stupids or bastards?
Posted by
Marcus & Eva
on 2001-06-09 07:36:14 UTC
Hi Sven:
THIS is why I have a one man shop!!!
It's amazing just how many ways things can go wrong when there are too many
cooks stirring in the soup pot.
You have my sympathy.
Cheers
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: Sven Peter, TAD S.A. <peteryco@...>
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] genius, stupids or bastards?
THIS is why I have a one man shop!!!
It's amazing just how many ways things can go wrong when there are too many
cooks stirring in the soup pot.
You have my sympathy.
Cheers
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: Sven Peter, TAD S.A. <peteryco@...>
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] genius, stupids or bastards?
>Hello Friends,discussion of shop built systems, for CAD, CAM, EDM, and DRO.
>Excuse me if this is way of interest, but I need to cry it out!
>What are costarican electricians?
>Genius, Stupid or Bastards?
>I have no idea.
>I was contracted to put a Guillotine for wood again to work,
>that had no electrical wiring at all.
>
>So I made a plan, programed a Siemens Logo mini PLC.
>Thought the factories main electrician how to program and how he can
>change parameters. At least instructed him how to make the installation.
>
>Confiding in him I let him make the main part of the job. the other
>electrician
>was on charge for to get the spare parts. And I came in everyday for
>supervision.
>The job became longer and longer instead of 3 days we spent now 8 days
>in installation. Spare part delay, new wishes, maximum easiness for
>maintenance, more LED's for simple failure detection, etc., etc., bla
>bla bla.....
>
>Finally yesterday started my real part of the job. >> getting out the
>bugs in
>hydraulics and electric's.
>Today the main electrician was ill.
>And after having changed the presostat and a pressure regulating valve
>things started to become strange. I could initiate valves although the
>pump
>wasn't switched on. The enough pressure light didn't go of and the
>safety fuse of the Logo blew.
>"Something is going wrong!!!"
>Auxiliary relays that worked yesterday didn't pull and the Logo gave me
>the
>alarm for unlogical states.
>And I started to have a look.
>After I found some 10 loose cables, genius connections of the hydraulic
>valves through the Logo's 100 mA fuse and ground where the T-line was
>supposed to be, I simply threw away the work of 4 days.
>And pulled out most auxiliary relays and rely just on the Logo's relays.
>
>In 2 1/2 hours the restructuration was done. But afterwards the
>electrical bugs
>continued. And I continued finding nonsense.
>Now I really ask myself: " Do these people think they are genius and
>have to reinvent he wheel? Is it simply negligence at work? Are they
>simply stupid?
>Or do I deal with bastards who make sabotage?"
>
>I fear all ideas have some truth here.
>I will need at least 1 or 2 days to clean up the mess.
>
>Obviously I made my own mistakes too. But I respond for them.
>And this time will learn my lesson!!!
>From now on I definitely will make my job of my own and will not trust
>anymore in someone elses work.
>
>OK, I blamed enough and feel better now.
>So everybody don't take it harsh and have a nice weekend.
>
>Good luck
>Sven Peter
>
>
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Discussion Thread
Sven Peter, TAD S.A.
2001-06-08 21:05:58 UTC
genius, stupids or bastards?
Marcus & Eva
2001-06-09 07:36:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] genius, stupids or bastards?
Sven Peter, TAD S.A.
2001-06-09 08:39:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] genius, stupids or bastards?