Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RE: Request for comment - G320 wiring
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2001-08-14 21:44:53 UTC
Alan Rothenbush wrote:
switches are usually not rated for much current. Also, generally, there are many
things controlled by the E-stop, like spindle, axis motors, coolant and the
computer. I have electronics in my E-stop control, but definitely not the
computer. I also have a watchdog timer that will cause an estop if the
computer doesn't service the motion hardware in time. You do want simple
circuitry for this function, and circuitry that at least is fail-safe if power is
lost.
the axis that is at the limit. Commoned switches would prevent other
axes from moving when one was at limit.
> >Oh, no. You DON'T want motor current going through the E-stop switch, as these
> > Subject: RE: Request for comment - G320 wiring
> >
> > I looked at your schematic and have one comment - E-Stop switches are
> > normally hardwired into the system, and should not require that any
> > electronics be functional. As drawn, your system has the potential of
> > failing in the "run" position if the electronics fails. This would not meet
> > OSHA safety requirements. If the Geckos are like the Camtronics, you don't
> > want to suddenly open the lines to the motors, but you probably want to
> > interrupt the power supply to them with a switch contact. Once you have this
> > hard-wired override, then you can run additional signals to the PIC (or to
> > the computer) to inform your control of what has happened.
>
> I agree to having had second thoughts about the EStop inputs as well.
>
> I've used PICs in NASTY environments and they've always come up smelling like
> roses. Note that the electronics would have to fail in a particular and
> unusual manner for things to fail "on".
>
> OTOH, there may not be as nasty a place as a shop floor. And Murphy does lie
> in wait for the proud. So I guess I'll rethink this bit.
>
> Here's another question or two for you then, if I may.
>
> 1. Is it permissable to power the relays through an EStop switch and still
> be considered "safe". I would REALLY like to avoid having all the motor
> current going through the EStop switch.
switches are usually not rated for much current. Also, generally, there are many
things controlled by the E-stop, like spindle, axis motors, coolant and the
computer. I have electronics in my E-stop control, but definitely not the
computer. I also have a watchdog timer that will cause an estop if the
computer doesn't service the motion hardware in time. You do want simple
circuitry for this function, and circuitry that at least is fail-safe if power is
lost.
> 2. Is there any point, short of laziness/convenience, in having separateThat is common in larger machines. Also, some machines limit motion in
> XYZ limit switches ? It would seem to me that the OR of the limit switches
> would equal an ESTOP .. or do machines usually have an extra set of switches
> set just "outside" the limit switches to act as ESTOP sensors ?
the axis that is at the limit. Commoned switches would prevent other
axes from moving when one was at limit.
Discussion Thread
Alan Rothenbush
2001-08-14 09:53:07 UTC
Request for comment - G320 wiring
Carol & Jerry Jankura
2001-08-14 11:38:29 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Request for comment - G320 wiring
Alan Rothenbush
2001-08-14 17:45:26 UTC
RE: Request for comment - G320 wiring
Jon Elson
2001-08-14 21:44:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RE: Request for comment - G320 wiring
Ian Wright
2001-08-15 00:00:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RE: Request for comment - G320 wiring