Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
Posted by
Marcus & Eva
on 2001-10-03 08:07:47 UTC
Hi Eric:
If you have lots of money to spend, get Featurecam by Engineering
Geometry systems.
It is an excellent package for beginners, and is powerful enough for most
general machine shop users.
A better, but slightly more arcane product is Mastercam. This is the one
that I am using now.
A lot of CAD CAM EDM DRO list members are using VectorCAD from IMS Services.
The buzz appears to be that it is adequately powerful, but a bit "unusual"
to learn.
It is WAY cheaper than the others I have mentioned.
The general consensus appears to be that Bobcad is crummy, and that the
support is dreadful.
I can't speak from personal experience on either Vector or Bobcad, but I
know from his posts that Fred at IMS (Vector) is very knowledgeable and very
helpful, not just to his customers but to list members who have asked
questions unrelated to his product.
I think that this speaks volumes for the service you can expect from IMS,
and in your position, this is probably the way I would go as a hobbyist.
Cheers
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Mack <glee@...>
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:51 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU
RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
If you have lots of money to spend, get Featurecam by Engineering
Geometry systems.
It is an excellent package for beginners, and is powerful enough for most
general machine shop users.
A better, but slightly more arcane product is Mastercam. This is the one
that I am using now.
A lot of CAD CAM EDM DRO list members are using VectorCAD from IMS Services.
The buzz appears to be that it is adequately powerful, but a bit "unusual"
to learn.
It is WAY cheaper than the others I have mentioned.
The general consensus appears to be that Bobcad is crummy, and that the
support is dreadful.
I can't speak from personal experience on either Vector or Bobcad, but I
know from his posts that Fred at IMS (Vector) is very knowledgeable and very
helpful, not just to his customers but to list members who have asked
questions unrelated to his product.
I think that this speaks volumes for the service you can expect from IMS,
and in your position, this is probably the way I would go as a hobbyist.
Cheers
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Mack <glee@...>
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:51 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU
RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
>The problem with posting this type of question is that it provides no
>qualifying information for you to consider when replying. I know that
>many folks have asked this question before with mixed responses. I'd
>like to encourage answers to this question that will help other
>newbies like me who I am sure, are dealing with the same question.
>
>So, what that said, I will first qualify my situation and then
>welcome the responses. My intent and hope is that this will trigger
>many responses. I have cross posted this to the Sherline group and
>the CAD/CAM DRO Group as I am involved in both, and, while the
>Sherline folks may (or may not) be as involved with CNC, the answers
>to the CAD question will certainly prove valuable to all.
>
>OBJECTIVE: My objective is to be able to machine small parts for
>robots that I would like to build. These parts include mounting
>plates, brackets, gears, parts for grippers, pulleys, cams, etc.
>
>EQUIPMENT: I have a CNC Equipped Sherline Mill with a rotary table
>and an AHHA Controller. I will also have a CNC Equipped Sherline
>Lathe with a linear encoder for threading. Finally, both machines
>have a spindle motor controller.
>
>CAD SOFTWARE: None, to speak of. I have downloaded various demos to
>experiment with. It looks like I will have to gain much more
>experience to be qualified to choose one. While the vendors are
>generous in allowing 30 day free trials, I'm concerned that I'm not
>able to learn enough in 30 days to be able to make a decision on a
>package that can cost upwards of a thousand dollars.
>
>CAM SOFTWARE: Again, None to speak of. I would prefer a package that
>has the CAM functions built-in unless there is a reason that I should
>not be considering this approach. Otherwise, see notes above.
>
>CNC SOFTWARE: The CNC Controller that I have is based on an AHHA
>Controller.
>
>EXPERIENCE: I've been more computer oriented than mechanically
>oriented most of my life. While I have no trouble putting things
>together or designing things, I have only a small, make that tiny,
>amount of hands-on machining experience. I understand the concepts
>and I have been reading many books on the subject. So, while I am not
>afraid to make shavings, I know enough to know that I need to be
>pointed in the right direction when getting started.
>
>LEARNING STYLE: I don't mind reading. I also value experimenting with
>what I am learning. For that reason, I am collecting a pile of wood,
>plastic, and aluminium blocks to make shavings from. I also enjoy
>videos and watching/learning from others who are more experienced
>than I am. I share this as some folks prefer to learn by doing vs
>being taught. I'm game to either method.
>
>FIRST PROJECTS: I took a handful of unique parts from my LEGO
>Mindstorms kit. These include blocks, pulleys, gears, and the like.
>My current thinking is that I would start with a basic piece such as
>a block and try to design it and then plan the tool path to machine
>it. I would reproduce this part until I get the process right. Then,
>I would proceed to the next part. I like the idea of trying to clone
>some LEGO parts as I can then use the real parts to see how well
>things fit together. By the way, if any of you have a similar
>interest in taking this LEGO approach or have others ideas, I would
>like to hear from you.
>
>BUDGET: Although this is a hobby, I like to do things well and I want
>to learn how to do things right. I have invested a lot of money in
>what I believe is good quality miniature machining equipment. I am
>pleased with the conversion. Now, I have the enormous task of
>learning how to produce parts with all of this stuff. So, while I
>would of course like to spend very little, I'm also willing to invest
>enough to do it well. Is that $500, $1000, $1500, More? My intuition
>tells me that I'm probably looking at about a $500-$1000 purchase by
>the time I add 4th axis support. I know that there are some excellent
>no-cost products like Intellicad. There are also multi-thousand
>dollar products intended for the Professionals who do this for a
>living.
>
>Ok, so, with the qualifying information here comes the big question:
>
>"BASED UPON THE ABOVE QUALIFYING INFORMATION, WHICH CAD AND CAM
>SOFTWARE PRODUCTS WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION AND WHY?"
>
>Thanks so much for your time and responses to this post. If there is
>enough interest/response, I'm willing to explore contributing to a
>FAQ to share this info with others.
>
>
>Eric Mack
>
>
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Discussion Thread
Eric Mack
2001-10-02 19:51:06 UTC
WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
Jon Elson
2001-10-02 20:29:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
Marcus & Eva
2001-10-03 08:07:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
Carol & Jerry Jankura
2001-10-03 08:32:02 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
Carol & Jerry Jankura
2001-10-03 08:36:41 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
thscarince@h...
2001-10-03 09:05:58 UTC
Re: WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
Fred Smith
2001-10-03 09:12:20 UTC
Re: WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
Tim
2001-10-03 09:25:26 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?
M. SHABBIR
2001-10-03 20:08:35 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] WHICH CAD AND CAM SOFTWARE PRODUCT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR MY APPLICATION & WHY?