Re: Model Engineers are here

OK. You can add me to the list of Model Engineers, I guess.
My interest right now is stationary steam. I also end up creating odd parts
for
ancient farm machinery.

I subscribed to this list when it started because the homegrown DRO was
exactly what I was looking for. Now you all have me thinking I might
want to replace my mini mill with a large machine (actually, I've wanted to
do that for years)
with some form of controller (that's the new part).


Marshall Pharoah
Software Engineer
Adirondac Software
PIC/6805/6811/68000
Asm/C/C++

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Devey <pdevey@...>
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@onelist.com <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@onelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Model Engineers are here

>From: "Paul Devey" <pdevey@...>
>
>Hi Ian,
>
>In understand what you are saying. Their are a few companies here in North
>America that are servicing the Model Engineer market. It still costs a few
>thousand C$ to implement. Dan Mauch does provide a low cost solution to the
>DIY types.
>
>From my own experience I see the Model Engineer having some large steps to
>overcome in getting their systems running:
>
>Learning a CAD system;
>Familiarising themselves with gCode;
>Learning to setup their machines for program execution (setups are not
>entirely the same for CNC as they are for a manual system); and
>Becomming comfortable with the CAM portion of the equation.
>
>I think some regular contributers are MEs but have not come out of the
>closet.
>
>Paul
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ian Wright <Ian@...>
>To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@onelist.com <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@onelist.com>
>Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 7:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Model Engineers are here
>
>
>>From: "Ian Wright" <Ian@...>
>>
>>Hi Paul,
>>
>>I realised that there are a few MEs on the list but they tend to be a bit
>>reticent and I wondered if this is because they feel overpowered by the
>>professionals who ooze experience. The point I was trying to make -
>probably
>>badly, is that there is a 'market' for good but inexpensive software and
>>electronics. Many of the MEs I know would, like me, be unable to persuade
>>the keeper of the domestic purse strings, of the need to expend hundreds

of

>>pounds (or dollars) on a piece of software which, in an essentially hobby
>>situation, is unlikely to ever repay its cost and, more importantly, is of
>>no direct benefit to her! Neverthless, these same people would love to try
>>their hands at computerising equipment they already have or could make and
>>would, with the lateral thought processes which seem to afflict most MEs,
>>soon be able to inject a lot of useful ideas and tips into the forum. This
>>is where the inevitable 'them and us' situation of professionals who can
>>repay the cost of a suite of software on one job and the penniless but

very

>>enthusiastic HSM causes difficulties in understanding. Fortunately, some
>>software houses are now realising this situation exists and are making
>>programs available free or at very reduced costs for 'private,
>>non-commercial users' but this concept doesn't yet seem to have percolated
>>into the realms of the types of program in which we are interested and the
>>software producers don't seem to realise that, if they allow users to
>become
>>'addicted' to their programs, they are likely to have a regular future
>>income from purchases of updates which may make up for the initial lost
>>income.
>>
>>Ian
>>--
>>Ian W. Wright
>>Sheffield UK
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Paul Devey <pdevey@...>
>>To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@onelist.com>
>>Sent: 19 October 1999 21:19
>>Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Model Engineers are here
>>
>>
>>> From: "Paul Devey" <pdevey@...>
>>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> Their are some model engineers on this list. Maybe we are a bit quite.

It

>>> takes some effort to juggle carreer, family and workshop.
>>>
>>> I am working towards producing tangable products with a CNC lathe and
>>mill.
>>> I am surprised at the efforts that are involved. I am finding that their
>>is
>>> alot to learn for the casual player. My hats off to the professionals.
>>>
>>> Paul Devey
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ian Wright <Ian@...>
>>> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@onelist.com <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@onelist.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 2:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] What do we want?
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "Ian Wright" <Ian@...>
>>> >
>>> >Hi gang,
>>> >
>>> >The one thing we are desperately missing at the moment is a Linux based
>>> >program to produce the g-code files from a drawing. We have the machine
>>> >control in EMC and we have one or two potentially useful CAD programs
>>(I'm
>>> >playing with Varkon at the moment and, with perseverance I reckon I
>>should
>>> >have mastered it by the next millennium!!! ;o) in the meantime, there
>are
>>> >others well under way in development and, for anyone who gets really
>>> >desperate, there are commercial programs which are very comprehensive
>>but,
>>> >it seems to me, we are still dependant on Windows based conversion
>>> programs.
>>> >As I am retired and thus quite cash-limited I would have difficulty
>>> >justifying the cost of many of the commercial programs and therefore

see

>>> >linux and GPL programs as an ideal way forward. Any time penalties in
>>> >swapping between applications are of little consequence to me as the

one

>>> >thing I have in plenty now is time! I'm surprised that we have not, so
>>far,
>>> >attracted many of the model engineering fraternity and wonder if this

is

>>> due
>>> >to the high cost of commercial programs - if so it is a shame as people
>>of
>>> >that ilk often have a wealth of very useful information and expertise
>>which
>>> >they are only too willing to share.
>>> >
>>> >Ian
>>> >--
>>> >Ian W. Wright
>>> >Sheffield UK
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: Bertho Boman <boman@...>
>>> >>
>>> >> Any suggestions for converting programs?
>>> >>
>>> >> Any suggestions for plugins in AutoCad?
>>> >
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