Contouring and CVV
Posted by
ballendo
on 2001-12-27 00:41:15 UTC
Fred,
An interesting approach... So the cam system would insert "helper"
f/r change blocks (or just add "F"-words to given blocks) in order to
optomise the already present constant contouring algorithm? Sounds
like a winner...
And the point about centerline vs. "tool" velocity is well taken. I
think most experienced programmers are aware of this and DO
make/insert F/R changes when programming c/l, but it sure would be
easier if it was a CAM "menu" item/option :-) (Or in the control, but
That's not your "bread"<g>)
Thank you for this post! I'll be watching for a Vector update...
Ballendo
P.S. What form of contouring do you consider the "best"? I hope my
post was clear that when I use the term "CVV", I mean the control
will attempt to maintain as "constant" a velocity as possible,
toolpath/machine physics considered. So the actual f/r may be slower
than is programmed at certain "tight curve" areas in the toolpath,
but it will ONLY be slower for as long as physics dictates.
An interesting approach... So the cam system would insert "helper"
f/r change blocks (or just add "F"-words to given blocks) in order to
optomise the already present constant contouring algorithm? Sounds
like a winner...
And the point about centerline vs. "tool" velocity is well taken. I
think most experienced programmers are aware of this and DO
make/insert F/R changes when programming c/l, but it sure would be
easier if it was a CAM "menu" item/option :-) (Or in the control, but
That's not your "bread"<g>)
Thank you for this post! I'll be watching for a Vector update...
Ballendo
P.S. What form of contouring do you consider the "best"? I hope my
post was clear that when I use the term "CVV", I mean the control
will attempt to maintain as "constant" a velocity as possible,
toolpath/machine physics considered. So the actual f/r may be slower
than is programmed at certain "tight curve" areas in the toolpath,
but it will ONLY be slower for as long as physics dictates.
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "imserv1" <imserv@v...> wrote:
>If one were to combine the level of continuous contouring, either
>that found in EMC or the ones found in say Master5 or Flashcut with
>an automated Cam system that could also react to distance to and
>from a specified angular change and an automatic feedrate change,
>would it not be possible to fine tune the system response,
>particularly say to a certain devilish corner in a family of parts
>(say corners on a door) such that the performance of the hobby class
>system approached that of the $20,000 hardwired box?
>
> There are some distinctions that I have seen between various
> implementations of continuous contouring. Constant velocity being
> only one permutation, and not necessarily the "best". One problem
> still to be adequately addressed is the one of the "crack the whip"
> effect found when cutting a tight centerline radius with a larger
> cutter. The effective feedrate is multiplied many fold and unless
> the controller is using cutter comp there is no data to control the
> actual feedrate around a hairpin turn. This makes cutter comp a
> minimum requirement for 2D continuous contouring.
<snipped example>
> Best Regards, Fred Smith- IMService
> Listserve Special discounts and offers are at:
> http://www.vectorcam.com/cced.html
Discussion Thread
confusered
2001-12-23 07:34:05 UTC
DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
afogassa
2001-12-23 14:02:49 UTC
Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
ballendo
2001-12-24 05:49:54 UTC
Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
Chris L
2001-12-24 18:30:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
ballendo
2001-12-25 02:51:28 UTC
Contouring and CVV was Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
chewy8833
2001-12-25 07:00:05 UTC
Contouring and CVV was Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
Art Fenerty
2001-12-25 07:13:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Contouring and CVV was Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
confusered
2001-12-25 07:24:31 UTC
Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
Chris L
2001-12-25 20:23:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Contouring and CVV was Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
Jon Elson
2001-12-25 22:24:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Contouring and CVV was Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
William Scalione
2001-12-26 05:39:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Contouring and CVV was Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
ballendo
2001-12-26 14:06:03 UTC
Contouring and CVV was Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
imserv1
2001-12-26 16:18:32 UTC
Contouring and CVV was Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
chewy8833
2001-12-26 17:50:54 UTC
Contouring and CVV was Re: DeskNC for Windows experience anyone?
ballendo
2001-12-27 00:41:15 UTC
Contouring and CVV
ballendo
2001-12-27 02:29:16 UTC
Contouring and CVV