Re: GOLmatic MD23

Hello Marcus,
Thank you for your comment.
I was surprised of the price, so at the moment I calm down and wait.
Personally I look already 2 1/2 years for a good quality benchtop lathe
with complete (metric and inch) norton box. But everything I found was
flimsy or half of the needed package.
The benchtop mills you get here from 2 to 3000$ are junk.
While the east european machines I had to deal with were normally well
done heavy metal that had a little sturdy handling with only minor
design mistakes. (better I don't continue flaming on US-designs)
The comments I found on this particular mill were: ridged and close
tolerance. -> Most important for me, who rebuilds the machines of other
shops! When I need bigger jobs:"There is waiting a 4 ton french lady in
my shop!"
Good Luck
Sven Peter

Marcus & Eva wrote:

>
> Hi All:
> I don't know what criteria you are using to judge the utility of these
> machines, but for 7 thousand quid, I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot
> pole.
> They've got almost no throat depth, and the goofy bolt-on tailstock is not
> useful at all in my opinion.
> They look well made, certainly compared to Chinese machines, but I don't
> think you can build very much on one of these without a lot of frustration.
> I'd buy a pair of dedicated machines for this kind of cash, and I'm sure I'd
> be ahead.
> If I really wanted a combo, I'd try to get a Meyer and Burger machine (look
> at the "lathes" site that Tony Griffiths has set up)
> Although lightweight, it looks to me to be the best engineered of any combo
> machine I have seen.
> You could also consider something like a Deckel FV1 and set up a chuck on it
> for turning.
> The biggest thing I don't like about the Deckel is the lack of a quill.
> The GOL matic...way overpriced in my opinion.
> Cheers
>
> Marcus
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "follicely_challenged" <dave_pearson@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 10:07 AM
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: GOLmatic MD23
>
> I picked up some brochures and a price list from the Wembley Model
> engineering exhibition recently. Brochure price for the MD 23K (470mm
> table length) is £3,194.00. MD 23L (570mm table length) is
> £3,888.00.
> (ex vat).
> They also do the GOLmatic MD 24 which is similar to the above, the
> only difference appears to be an inverter driven spindle. MD 24-L
> (570mm table ) £6,937.00. MD-24 EL (720mm table) £7,430.00.
> According to the brochure the MD 24 models are available with ball
> screws for about £1,100.00 extra.
> They had a CNC version on display at the exhibition, I didn't like
> the control because it couldn't (apparently) run an externally
> generated (CadCam) program, and looked clumsy to use.
> the machines looked to be of a very good build quality, with a lot of
> available accessories.
>
> HTH
>
> Dave Pearson
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "luisguillermo98" <luisguillermo98@y...>
> wrote:
> > they look really good.. I am wondering what is the price??
> >
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "John H." <johnhe-uk@s...> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Has anyone seen or used one of these before?
> > > http://www.golmatic.de/englisch/gbuniver.htm
> > > http://www.emcomachinetools.co.uk/Golmatic/golmatic.htm#
> > > Information on them seems quite limited and 90% of it is in
> German.
> > It looks
> > > interesting as it claims to hold it's accuracy around 0.01mm very
> > well, work
> > > as a vertical mill, horizontal mill and lathe when flopped onto
> > it's side.
> > > Weighs around 300 kilos which is a lot for it's size. I'm trying
> to
> > find out
> > > how much it is but most of the 'distributors' don't seem to
> > acknowledge it's
> > > existence.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John H.
>
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