Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CNC Stepper Power Supply Q's???
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2002-09-24 11:22:16 UTC
Mark wrote:
The transformer will be forced to deliver the RMS power in short pulses of high
current, which causes transformer dissipation to be much higher. So, a
capacitor input filter generally requires adding a safety factor to the transformer
rating, unless the transformer already is rated for "capacitor input". This can be
25% or more, depending on how conservative the maker is.
But, there is the other factor, that this is not likely to be a steady-state full
load. When idling, the current draw of the drivers will be much less. If your
motors are 6.2 A per winding, they can draw more than 6.2 A input when
delivering power at medium speed. But, a bulk dc supply should have no
problem handling short-term overloads.
flowing in the winding, an inductive voltage surge is generated. When you flip
the main switch off, there will be a big surge due to the collapsing field from the
primary winding. For a 70 V power supply, a 250 V rectifier would be my minimum.
I might even go to 400 V unless I put snubbing capacitors or networks on the
rectifier to protect it. But, the higher voltage rectifier only costs a few CENTS
extra. VERY cheap insurance.
Jon
> No that was excellent. So from what your paper stated, and near as IYes, use the DC voltage at the capacitor, as amps x voltage = power.
> can tell what I want is about a 50 VAC output from the transformer
> and roughly a 750 VA Transformer since the motors are 6.2 Amp motors.
>
> So we get 6.2 * 3 = 18.6 Amps * .667 = 12.4 Amps
> 12.4 Amps * 50 Volts = 620 VA Or should I multiply by 70?
The transformer will be forced to deliver the RMS power in short pulses of high
current, which causes transformer dissipation to be much higher. So, a
capacitor input filter generally requires adding a safety factor to the transformer
rating, unless the transformer already is rated for "capacitor input". This can be
25% or more, depending on how conservative the maker is.
But, there is the other factor, that this is not likely to be a steady-state full
load. When idling, the current draw of the drivers will be much less. If your
motors are 6.2 A per winding, they can draw more than 6.2 A input when
delivering power at medium speed. But, a bulk dc supply should have no
problem handling short-term overloads.
>No, it should be rated WAY over the output voltage. Every time the current stops
> As for the Capacitor It appears that I need
>
> (80000 * 12.4)/70 = 14,171 uF of capacitance at 70 Volts. Apparantly
> there is no penalty for having more capacitance than required?
>
> Finally should the Bridge Rectifier be rated on the Input Voltage or
> Output Voltage, I assume output voltage?
flowing in the winding, an inductive voltage surge is generated. When you flip
the main switch off, there will be a big surge due to the collapsing field from the
primary winding. For a 70 V power supply, a 250 V rectifier would be my minimum.
I might even go to 400 V unless I put snubbing capacitors or networks on the
rectifier to protect it. But, the higher voltage rectifier only costs a few CENTS
extra. VERY cheap insurance.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Mark
2002-09-23 20:11:28 UTC
CNC Stepper Power Supply Q's???
Tim Goldstein
2002-09-23 20:27:09 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] CNC Stepper Power Supply Q's???
Robert Campbell
2002-09-24 08:38:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] CNC Stepper Power Supply Q's???
Mark
2002-09-24 09:13:08 UTC
Re: CNC Stepper Power Supply Q's???
Robert Campbell
2002-09-24 09:35:37 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CNC Stepper Power Supply Q's???
Jon Elson
2002-09-24 11:22:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CNC Stepper Power Supply Q's???
Mark
2002-09-24 12:01:45 UTC
Re: CNC Stepper Power Supply Q's???
JJ
2002-09-24 17:46:48 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CNC Stepper Power Supply Q's???
Mark
2002-09-24 19:27:15 UTC
Re: CNC Stepper Power Supply (Update with Total Cost)