RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Pittman Servomotor
Posted by
Mike Haughton
on 2002-09-30 07:13:39 UTC
Hi,
Thanks for your info.
The HP encoder board has a serial (part?) No 07470-60110 and HP 711?5. No
mention of HEDS.
I assume the 4 output leads are ground, supply, pulse and direction. But
which is which?
MikeH
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From: elson [mailto:elson]On Behalf Of Jon Elson
Sent: 27 September 2002 05:26
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Pittman Servomotor
Mike Haughton wrote:
volts it
takes to get 1000 RPM. You can use a disc with a slot in it and a
photo-sensor,
and count with an oscilloscope, if you have one. You can also use a neon
bulb
with a 100 K Ohm resistor and rectifier, all in series. This bulb will
blink 60 times
a second (at least in the US) and can be held next to a disc with a wide
stripe
marked on it. Connect the motor to a variable DC power supply, and adjust
for
16.67 pulses per second on the oscilloscope for 1000 RPM, and read voltage.
Or, set such that the disc only shows one stripe standing still (with the
neon stroboscope)
and you should be at either 1800 or 3600 RPM. If you increase voltage to
get two
stripes standing still, that would be 7200 RPM, but that might be tough on
the motor.
Anyway, at 3600 RPM, divide the voltage by 3.6 and you have your Kv.
For Kt (the torque constant), mount a spool of some sort on the motor. A
thread
spool might be perfect. Wind some heavy thread or light string on the drum
a few
turns, and put some modest weight on the string. You might want to put a
power resistor
of something like 1 - 10 Ohms in series with the power supply, and hook a
DVM
in series to measure current. Adjust the voltage of the power supply until
it just
starts to lift the weight. At this point, read the current. Kt is torque
per amp.
So, knowing the radius of the drum and the weight, you can figure out the
torque
to lift it in whatever units of measure you like. If the radius of the drum
was one
inch, and the weight was 10 Oz, then lifting the weight required torque of
10 Oz-In.
If it took 1.5 Amps to do that, the Kt of the motor is 10/1.5 = 6.667
Oz-In/Amp.
HEDS-9000
or some similar) we can be more help.
Jon
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Thanks for your info.
The HP encoder board has a serial (part?) No 07470-60110 and HP 711?5. No
mention of HEDS.
I assume the 4 output leads are ground, supply, pulse and direction. But
which is which?
MikeH
-----Original Message-----
From: elson [mailto:elson]On Behalf Of Jon Elson
Sent: 27 September 2002 05:26
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Pittman Servomotor
Mike Haughton wrote:
> I have some Pittman servos taken from a HP7475 pen plotter. Can anybodyIt is pretty easy to determine the basic motor constants. Kv is how many
> supply details of these servomotors? I can't find them on the Pittman
> website.
> Details from the motor
> 9413D319
> 3140-0665 rev H
> 19.1 VDC
> 1-7-87
volts it
takes to get 1000 RPM. You can use a disc with a slot in it and a
photo-sensor,
and count with an oscilloscope, if you have one. You can also use a neon
bulb
with a 100 K Ohm resistor and rectifier, all in series. This bulb will
blink 60 times
a second (at least in the US) and can be held next to a disc with a wide
stripe
marked on it. Connect the motor to a variable DC power supply, and adjust
for
16.67 pulses per second on the oscilloscope for 1000 RPM, and read voltage.
Or, set such that the disc only shows one stripe standing still (with the
neon stroboscope)
and you should be at either 1800 or 3600 RPM. If you increase voltage to
get two
stripes standing still, that would be 7200 RPM, but that might be tough on
the motor.
Anyway, at 3600 RPM, divide the voltage by 3.6 and you have your Kv.
For Kt (the torque constant), mount a spool of some sort on the motor. A
thread
spool might be perfect. Wind some heavy thread or light string on the drum
a few
turns, and put some modest weight on the string. You might want to put a
power resistor
of something like 1 - 10 Ohms in series with the power supply, and hook a
DVM
in series to measure current. Adjust the voltage of the power supply until
it just
starts to lift the weight. At this point, read the current. Kt is torque
per amp.
So, knowing the radius of the drum and the weight, you can figure out the
torque
to lift it in whatever units of measure you like. If the radius of the drum
was one
inch, and the weight was 10 Oz, then lifting the weight required torque of
10 Oz-In.
If it took 1.5 Amps to do that, the Kt of the motor is 10/1.5 = 6.667
Oz-In/Amp.
>lead
> The encoder is made by HP and I would appreciate connection details (4
> AMP flat cable). The encoder wheel is mylar with two tracks.If you can find a part # on the encoder or read head (may look like
HEDS-9000
or some similar) we can be more help.
Jon
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Discussion Thread
Mike Haughton
2002-09-26 12:13:58 UTC
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2002-09-26 17:12:21 UTC
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2002-09-26 21:16:42 UTC
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2002-09-26 21:21:23 UTC
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2002-09-26 22:05:43 UTC
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2002-09-27 06:28:53 UTC
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Mike Haughton
2002-09-30 07:13:34 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Pittman Servomotor
Mike Haughton
2002-09-30 07:13:39 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Pittman Servomotor
Jon Elson
2002-09-30 19:52:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Pittman Servomotor