Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Beginner's Mill/Drill to CNC conversion questions
Posted by
Bill Vance
on 2002-11-08 22:45:43 UTC
Yo Garry;
I've never seen one of those benchtop knee mills, got any more info, websites,
etc?
Bill
I've never seen one of those benchtop knee mills, got any more info, websites,
etc?
Bill
On Fri Nov 8 21:37:52 2002, Garry & Maxine Foster, <garry.foster@...> wrote:
>> Most would prefer this however there are some cavets to this.
>> The dovetailed mill/Drills I know are nearly twice the price.
>> The good, you can rise and lower the head without losing position. The
>> bad, without the dovetail you can swing the head from one side to the
>> other inbetween machining and gain a much larger machineable Area
>> without reclamping. Can't do this with the tail. Personally I do not
>> belive the added price would be justified, if I had the additional
>> money for the dovetail version I would be spending it on a larger
>> machine to start with.
>>
>
>Also you can buy a benchtop knee mill for less than the dove tail
>mill drills.
>They seem to be a better answer to me.
>
>Garry
>
>> >
>> > 1. Once I purchase the Mill/Drill and computer, how
>> > much more will it cost to convert to a 3 axis CNC?
>> > 2. I would like a machine that will give me 0.001"
>> > accuracy. Can I expect that from this type of a
>> > setup?
>>
>> Yes Mill/Drills are capable of this acuracy.
>> Most Drivers deliver resolutions higher then this.
>> There is a very wide range of cost here depending on the
>> performance you expect to get.
>> The more you want to get involved in assembly of your drivers
>> the more mony you can save, research and shop around.
>> The Hardware to mount the motors and such you will be stuck with
>> there are no vendors I know of that offer this.
>> There are some Kits offering drivers motors and software.
>> generaly anything less then $2000.- will likely not have powerful
>> enough motors to get satisfactory speeds. You can always gear them
>> down to get more torque but this will also reduce the speeds to move
>> the axes. Between $2000-$5000 is what gets you into some respectable
>> kits. The sky the limit here there are kits for more then $10000.- out
>> there I have no Idea if they are any better, too much for me.
>>
>> > 3. Will I need to install ballscrews, or are they
>> > just highly recommended?
>>
>> Highly recommended.
>> Without Ballscrews your machine will have the same capability
>> as a manual machine just cnc controlled.
>> Dealing with backlash will be a pain, restricting to mostly
>> conventional cutting.
>> Acurate circle cutting one of the main benefits of cnc will
>> not be nearly as acurate eaven with backlash compensation.
>>
>> > 4. Stepper or servo motors? and why?
>>
>> This is to complex of a question to answer here, there
>> are many good webpages out there to explain the pos and cons.
>> Very generalised a machine this type can be retrofitted
>> with ether one and function very satisfactory.
>> A suitable stepper setup will likely be a little cheaper.
>>
>> > 5. I am trying to get a mill/drill with a dovetail Z
>> > axis. would it be more difficult to convert this type
>> > mill?
>>
>> No most I know still have rack and pinion drive.
>> This in any case is more difficult to archive backlash free
>> opperation.
>>
>> >
>> > I'm glad I've found this group. there seem to be very
>> > knowledgable people here. I'm still reading through
>> > the FAQs and Archives. any advice or tips you could
>> > give me would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Discussion Thread
Bryan Pryor
2002-11-08 00:33:29 UTC
Beginner's Mill/Drill to CNC conversion questions
torsten98001
2002-11-08 19:52:52 UTC
Re: Beginner's Mill/Drill to CNC conversion questions
Garry & Maxine Foster
2002-11-08 21:38:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Beginner's Mill/Drill to CNC conversion questions
Bill Vance
2002-11-08 22:45:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Beginner's Mill/Drill to CNC conversion questions
Garry & Maxine Foster
2002-11-09 06:20:20 UTC
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C.S. Mo
2002-11-09 09:15:43 UTC
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Garry & Maxine Foster
2002-11-09 10:06:54 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Beginner's Mill/Drill to CNC conversion questions
jim davies
2002-11-11 16:10:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Beginner's Mill/Drill to CNC conversion questions