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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance

on 2002-12-07 23:34:24 UTC
At 10:35 PM 12/1/02 -0800, Randy Gordon-Gilmore wrote:
>I have a perplexing problem. Recently I've put together a gantry milling
>machine from mostly surplus components--a Techno-Isel stepper-driven
gantry
>table (500x500x100mm theoretical travel, with zero-backlash leadscrews),
>three General Controls "Dragon Driver" 2.5A bipolar chopping drives (fed
by
>a 28V transformer) and a Sherline headstock, for which I made an adapter
>plate to bolt it onto the Z-axis carriage.
>
>I finally got the thing running this weekend, and it is not running
>reliably. I have the drivers in half-step mode, which with the 4mm-pitch
>leadscrews gives 2540 steps per inch. I can jog the X and Y axes at
>insanely fast speeds (200 ipm,) but I have fast jog set at 60 ipm. I'm
>using CNCPro running under DR-DOS 7.03.
>
>Running 3-axis Gcode generated by Visual Mill Free, all 3 axes "drift"
>during machining. I'm cutting acrylic with a .50 roughing endmill, with
>cutting speed set at 10ipm. The motion is actually more like 2.5D--it
goes
>to a depth and then pockets that level before going to another depth and
>repeating. It spirals down into the material.
>
>Cuts at each depth should line up, but I end up with a "terraced" effect
>because the X and Y will shift by .005-.050 inches between depths. I have
>also measured the depths (each "level" is set at .050") and they are not
>consistent either.
>
>I'm baffled, but suspecting that the spiraling between levels is what is
>throwing things off, along with maybe arcs in XY. When I got the drives,
>they were set for full stepping, and the table lost steps very easily. I
>think that the coarse leadscrews contribute to that, because the motors
are
>stepping fairly slowly. Now that I have the drives set for half stepping,
>and have a decent acceleration programmed into CNCPro to get to running
>speed quickly, and keep all my motions to 5 ipm or more, I seem to be
>avoiding the low-speed resonances OK for straight moves.
>
>But what can I do about arcs? By their nature they will be moving the
axes
>slowly through the suspected resonance range, and spiral leadins will do
>that for all 3 axes. How do I avoid that?
>
>I truthfully don't know for sure that the arcs are the problem. But
>straight-line motion with handwritten Gcode works fine. I have the
stepper
>motor cables away from AC cords as much as possible. CNCPro works pretty
>reliably on my Sherline mill, so I don't think that is the problem. I
have
>run the Gcode through editNC to backplot it, and it looks fine so I don't
>suspect that. So that pretty much leaves arcs and spirals, doesn't it?
>
>Newbie again,
>
>Randy
>
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Discussion Thread

Randy Gordon-Gilmore 2002-12-01 22:35:26 UTC Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Tim Goldstein 2002-12-01 23:05:59 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Randy Gordon-Gilmore 2002-12-01 23:53:15 UTC RE: Skipping steps, avoiding resonance CL 2002-12-02 06:59:56 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Carol & Jerry Jankura 2002-12-02 08:06:49 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Randy Gordon-Gilmore 2002-12-07 23:34:24 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Randy Gordon-Gilmore 2002-12-07 23:54:02 UTC Skipping steps, avoiding resonance and the importance of being grounded Chris L 2002-12-08 07:52:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance and the importance of being grounded Peter 2002-12-08 08:43:19 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Peter 2002-12-08 08:48:00 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance and the importance of being grounded Chris L 2002-12-08 09:34:44 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Peter 2002-12-08 12:00:36 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance gadget_c <billsand@c... 2002-12-08 12:29:52 UTC Re: Skipping steps, avoiding resonance mariss92705 <mariss92705@y... 2002-12-08 12:33:18 UTC Re: Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Chris L 2002-12-08 16:22:36 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Chris L 2002-12-08 16:37:20 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Peter 2002-12-08 18:57:35 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance Peter 2002-12-08 19:02:38 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Skipping steps, avoiding resonance