Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Math for constant speed ellipse
Posted by
Les Watts
on 2002-12-28 15:47:44 UTC
Todd,
I used to have a nice symbolic math program between my
ears. Let's see if it still runs at all.
It looks like you want to calculate x axis and y axis speeds vs
time for an ellipse of semimajor axes a in x and b in y centered around
the origin.
Let's define P as the time to travel all the way around the ellipse
at constant speed.
Then x(t)= a*cos(2*PI*t/P) and y(t)=b*sin(2*PI*t/P)
parameterized to time t.
To find the axis speeds we differentiate
dx/dt= -a*2*PI*sin(2*PI*t/P)/P = x axis velocity
dy/dt= b*2*PI*cos(2*PI*t/P)/P = y axis velocity
The resulting constant speed around the ellipse is just
the perimeter divided by the period which is also
sqrt( dx/dt^2 + dy/dt^2)
This is confirmed a constant by the trig identity cos()^2 +sin()^2 =1
Hope I got that right. Still on my first cup of coffee goofing off here
on a saturday morning.
Les
Leslie Watts
L M Watts Furniture
Tiger, Georgia USA
http://www.alltel.net/~leswatts/wattsfurniturewp.html
engineering page:
http://www.alltel.net/~leswatts/shop.html
Surplus cnc for sale:
http://www.alltel.net/~leswatts/forsale.html
I used to have a nice symbolic math program between my
ears. Let's see if it still runs at all.
It looks like you want to calculate x axis and y axis speeds vs
time for an ellipse of semimajor axes a in x and b in y centered around
the origin.
Let's define P as the time to travel all the way around the ellipse
at constant speed.
Then x(t)= a*cos(2*PI*t/P) and y(t)=b*sin(2*PI*t/P)
parameterized to time t.
To find the axis speeds we differentiate
dx/dt= -a*2*PI*sin(2*PI*t/P)/P = x axis velocity
dy/dt= b*2*PI*cos(2*PI*t/P)/P = y axis velocity
The resulting constant speed around the ellipse is just
the perimeter divided by the period which is also
sqrt( dx/dt^2 + dy/dt^2)
This is confirmed a constant by the trig identity cos()^2 +sin()^2 =1
Hope I got that right. Still on my first cup of coffee goofing off here
on a saturday morning.
Les
Leslie Watts
L M Watts Furniture
Tiger, Georgia USA
http://www.alltel.net/~leswatts/wattsfurniturewp.html
engineering page:
http://www.alltel.net/~leswatts/shop.html
Surplus cnc for sale:
http://www.alltel.net/~leswatts/forsale.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Fleming" <todd@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:36 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Math for constant speed ellipse
> I was trying to figure out how to machine an ellipse at constant speed
when
> I ran into a differential equation that I can't solve. Is there anyone
with
> a nice symbolic math package that's willing to try this eq? I posted an
> image of the equation here:
>
> http://www.flemingcnc.com/Papers/help_de.png
>
> Thanks!
>
> Todd Fleming
> flemingcnc.com
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Todd Fleming
2002-12-27 18:35:47 UTC
Math for constant speed ellipse
Les Watts
2002-12-28 15:47:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Math for constant speed ellipse
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2002-12-28 16:15:31 UTC
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2002-12-28 16:39:22 UTC
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2002-12-28 16:45:08 UTC
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Les Watts
2002-12-29 08:05:19 UTC
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2002-12-29 12:09:12 UTC
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2002-12-29 14:56:29 UTC
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2002-12-29 16:51:46 UTC
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2002-12-29 16:52:26 UTC
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2003-01-06 20:33:51 UTC
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2003-01-06 20:45:19 UTC
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