Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Print Servers for CNC

Bill,
was just talking to Apiatech people.
There are still around, ready and willing - web server is down.
Alex

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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Print Servers for CNC


> Yo Alex;
>
> Netscape can't seem to find that URL. Maybe a misspelling?
>
> Bill
>
> On Wed Feb 26 06:55:59 2003 alex wrote:
>
> >You know, Bill, for me price point is of a great importance,
> >so the least expensive I found for $119, q-ty 1, made by
www.abiatech.com.
> >Never tried it, though.
> >If you look at Circuit Cellar Mag, you'll find numerous companies making
> >SBCs,
> >there are getting more and more of them with every issue.
> >For interfacing I would recommend to read "Build your own universal
computer
> >interface" by B.Chubb.
> >Alex
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <ccq@...>
> >To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:57 PM
> >Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Print Servers for CNC
> >
> >
> >> As I've never played with one of these, can you suggest the best SBC
board
> >for
> >> this, and the least complicated way to go about implementing and
> >programming it?
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> On Tue Feb 25 11:23:31 2003 alex wrote:
> >>
> >> >Bill,
> >> >use SBC as a physical interface. It is in turn connected to a "server"
> >over
> >> >the network.
> >> >I/O card plugged into ISA bus of SBC can generate pulses for a
drive.It
> >also
> >> >can
> >> >generate analog signals for a servo, also whole bunch of other signals
> >for
> >> >relays
> >> >and so forth.
> >> >Server in this case is a controller which does processing of G-codes.
> >> >Alex
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: <ccq@...>
> >> >To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:33 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Print Servers for CNC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Alex;
> >> >>
> >> >> Because you need a physical interface to hook it all up to?
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue Feb 25 06:39:31 2003 alex wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Why to use print servers when you can add networking app directly
into
> >> >the
> >> >> >code?
> >> >> >Alex
> >> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >From: <ccq@...>
> >> >> >To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:45 AM
> >> >> >Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Print Servers for CNC
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Howdy Jeff;
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue Feb 25 05:36:41 2003 Jeff Goldberg wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I don't think speed will be an issue with a modern print server
as
> >> >they
> >> >> >are
> >> >> >> >generally the same throughput as a PC parallel port. The
problems
> >may
> >> >> >arise
> >> >> >> >from the ability to directly output signals on pins which are
> >unusual
> >> >for
> >> >> >> >printers to use in the same way. Don't forget, they are not
> >directly
> >> >> >> >coupled to your PC, so any fooling around that the programmer
does
> >> >with
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >innards of your PC to generate or read signals may not work on a
> >print
> >> >> >> >server.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Also, Ethernet works on a collision based retransmission basis.
On
> >a
> >> >> >small
> >> >> >> >network this probably wouldn't cause a problem, but on a network
> >with
> >> >> >lots
> >> >> >> >of traffic flowing, your data may be slightly delayed in
reaching
> >the
> >> >> >print
> >> >> >> >server which might cause issues.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You're thinking of using this on a hub vs. a switch here, yes?
> >There
> >> >are
> >> >> >single
> >> >> >> ether/parport units available, but I think that would tend to add
> >delay
> >> >> >time,
> >> >> >> which is why I was thinking about a single NIC to triple parport
> >> >solution.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I'd tend to suggest sticking to popular name brands because
driver
> >> >> >> >availability might be an issue if you change operating systems
in
> >the
> >> >> >future
> >> >> >> >(unless the price difference is too great, and you get involved
up
> >> >front
> >> >> >> >with the assumption that it may end up as a paperweight sometime
in
> >> >the
> >> >> >> >future)
> >> >> >> >Theoretically, they should work, from a practical standpoint,
you'd
> >> >have
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> >try it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Jeff
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Near as I can tell, the popular name brands only put out single
port
> >> >> >units,
> >> >> >> but I don't have any comprehensive list to look at.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Bill
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >From: ccq@... [mailto:ccq@...]
> >> >> >> >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:28 AM
> >> >> >> >To: 2ccq@...
> >> >> >> >Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Print Servers for CNC
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The following URLs have a print server on them; That's a
10/100
> >> >> >ethernet
> >> >> >> >port feeding three parallel ports. Would these be usable for
CNC
> >> >work?
> >> >> >> >Would the software be able to access them properly? I would
think
> >> >they'd
> >> >> >be
> >> >> >> >speedy enough for smaller, slower machines, but.....
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > http://www.pcbay.net/gen3parpor10.html
> >> >> >> > http://www.amastore.com/gen3porparpr.html
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Bill
> >> >>
> >> >> --
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