Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PIC Based DRO

I refer to my earlier posting that linear encoders is the way to go, I am in the process of drawing up the metalwork for such an installation it could be adapted to any machine that has slides such as a small mill and if you add up the cost it is nowhere near $1800+. It will have a resolution of 0.0006944", I have seen finished work before polishing that has tool marks deeper than that.

Regards,

Terry.

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From: jguenthe
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Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PIC Based DRO


So given the cost difference between rotary encoders and linear encoders and
the desire to have DRO functionality on a small lathe or mill in a home shop
(at a cost that is not multiple times the cost of the lathe or mill). Then
could we not achieve reasonable accuracy with rotary encoders mounted such
that they are driven by the axis that we wish to watch. The drive could be
by timing belt, cable, rack and pinion gearing or friction. I know, there
are drawbacks here also but I would be willing to live with them in order to
have a reasonable accurate DRO without the expense of glass linear encoders.
Let's face it, the logic behind putting an $1800.00 + DRO with linear scales
on a $500.00 mill or lathe is difficult to comprehend at best.

Since the least accurate method of attaching a DRO to a small mill or lathe
is using rotary encoders on the lead screws, the least cost method appears
to be rotary encoders driven directly by the movement of the table / saddle
/ cross slide / head we want to measure.

Regards

John G.

-----Original Message-----
From: beer@... [mailto:beer@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 3:01 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PIC Based DRO


>> It seems like the problem will be how to couple to everyone's shafts.
>> What would you use for a shaft encoder that would be somewhat
>> universal? There may be no way to fit full size machines as well as
>> tabletop machines.

>> Also, a shaft encoder cannot manage the backlash,
>> so your resolution will be no better than the current lash in the
>> lead screw, right?

Exactly, a shaft mounted encoder cannot measure backlash - or wear - or
misadjusted gibs - or lack or parallelism in the ways - or racking of
the table - or any of a number of other sources of positional error.

An encoder placed on the leadscrew IS a DRO, but what it is Digitally
Reading Out is NOT the POSITION of the table. What IS being read out,
even with the best of leadscrews, is the number of turns of the crank
and an APPROXIMATE table position. I guess that's better than just
counting the turns manually, but it hardly seems worth the trouble.

Capturing the actual motion of the table is a whole lot more difficult,
but also, a whole lot more useful.

A DRO is a pretty simple thing to code, for the basic functions; that
is, everything except bolt holes ) Been there, done that, works fine.

( My code, with error checking, LCD display, lathe mode, and
simultaneous absolute and incremental fits in a 1k PIC. Metric
functions run JUST over 1k, although it could probably be squeezed
into 1K too with a bit of work.)

BUT, getting ACCURATE table position information at reasonably high
resolutions is still proving troublesome.

Alan

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Alan Rothenbush | The Spartans do not ask the number of the
Academic Computing Services | enemy, only where they are.
Simon Fraser University |
Burnaby, B.C., Canada | Agix of Sparta


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