Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 18 ft router

They want to keep the table though I probably could buy it. It is so
heavy that I may not be able to afford the huge motor and electronics needed
to drive it.
If someone else wanted to use a planer in this way there are right many
smaller machines left around the country. Maybe 8 or 10 feet tables . Open
sided planers because they have a tower on one side with the a huge cross
arm are really heavy machines probably too heavy to work with. Close sided
planers like the one I am getting is probably a better choice.
The owners father who ran the shop for years [about 90 years old] refers
to the machine as that little portable planer. Doesn't seem like a machine
that weighs 25 or 30000 lbs would be considered portable does it?
Doug

----- Original Message -----
From: "ballendo" <ballendo@...>
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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:58 PM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 18 ft router


> Doug,
>
> I'd sure try to keep the table... After all, a metalworking planer is
> already designed to travel the table in a flat plane. Why on earth
> would you want to loose this inherent and immediately available
> accuracy? (You can fasten a sacrificail table to the top.)
>
> You're saving bunches on structure, so you can put it into the likely
> larger motor/drive/screw/nut you'll need...
>
> BTW, there are probably more than a few of these metal planers around
> still. And I hadn't thought of it before; but they'd make for a GREAT
> bridge style router/mill! Thanks.
>
> Ballendo
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Pollard"
> <dougpol1@o...> wrote:
> > No the planer table is @24 ft x 30 inches wide. The base of the
> machine is
> > 36 ft long the ways extend 8ft on each end with a support under
> each end. I
> > have never seen it run as it's been setting outside for about 10
> years. I
> > assume that the table overtravels the ways by probably another 8 ft
> on each
> > end.
> > The shop is located down the road in a marina about a half mile
> and they
> > will pick it up and bring it to me with their travel lift which can
> pick up
> > 35 tons.
> > With the table off I doubt that it weighs more than 25000 lbs.
> They will
> > keep the table as a welding table.
> > The name cast in the side is Walter Machine Works Dated 1897 or
> 1895 I
> > can't be sure
> > The big problem is the ground is so wet after a solid year of
> rain that
> > they may not be able to bring it across my yard till July??
> > Doug
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "metlmunchr" <metlmunchr@y...>
> > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 9:10 PM
> > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 18 ft router
> >
> >
> > > Uhhhh....a 24 ft planer has a 24 ft stroke (moving table).
> Roughly,
> > > the length of this machine is twice the stroke plus 10 feet, so in
> > > this instance somewhere around 58 to 60 ft long. The table alone
> > > will probably weigh in excess of 30,000 lbs, and the entire
> machine
> > > weight will push 100 tons. Machines like this have to be
> > > disassembled for moving. $25,000 might get it disassembled,
> moved,
> > > and re-assembled, but I doubt it. You are kidding aren't you?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Pollard"
> > > <dougpol1@o...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Folks,
> > > > Well I have reluctantly given up on the idea of using oak to
> > > build my
> > > > cnc router. I had really gotten caught up in the idea probably
> as
> > > much as
> > > > anything because everyone thought it the wrong thing to do.
> > > > A local machine shop came to my rescue by giving me a 24 ft
> > > metal
> > > > working plainer. The table is way to heavy to use. It weighs, I
> > > would guess
> > > > 3000 lbs. It would take a motor as big as a water bucket to
> start
> > > it and
> > > > stop it. I am thinking that I will build a table out of 1 inch
> > > Aluminum jig
> > > > plate as they have enough left over from a job and will let me
> > > have it
> > > > really cheap.
> > > > The plainer frame is really heavy and has a very rigid
> gantry
> > > with cross
> > > > ways to mount a router on. I plan to throw away the compound
> that
> > > the
> > > > cutting tool is usually mounted on and mill some rectangular
> > > lightning holes
> > > > in the cross slide. Hopefully I can get it light enough so that
> > > there will
> > > > not be so much inertia involved.
> > > > The bed has "v" ways. I think I can make some kind of roller
> > > devices to
> > > > fit down in them and provide roller ways for the table.
> > > > Now I am scratching my head trying to figure out were the
> > > money is
> > > > coming from to buy the bigger motors and electronics to move all
> > > this
> > > > around. I have a sinking feeling I'm in over my head but I guess
> > > I'll take
> > > > it one step at a time. It most likely will just take longer to
> > > complete due
> > > > to having to come up with the money.
> > > > Doug
> > >
> > >
> > >
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