Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Dead servo
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2004-05-07 09:17:27 UTC
Vladimir Huzevka RUTEX.COM wrote:
I could make it float with just one more opto-isolator, and maybe I should
do that.
terminal.
But, I had a shorted low-side transistor, and the amp simply shut down,
protecting the high side transistor. The inductor wasn't even in the
current
path. So, I think it is pretty solid. It uses FETs, not IGBTs, which
are much
more sensitive to short circuit conditions.
overcurrent trip
to respond. At 50 KHz, with the motors I'm using, the time constant is
about
one cycle (20 uS).
in each leg, in a 2-pole filter. This still had a very short electrical
time
constant, and I get full power bandwidth to 3 KHz on that amp.
Jon
>Hi Jon,Well, because of the computer interface, my servo amp is not floating.
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>I love to test one of your drives.
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>Strictly speaking, it does not matter if the current sensing is in the
>high-side or low-side as long as the power supply is floating. It does
>exactly the same job. The Regulations of many countries require power
>supply to be floating - that's why most of the OEMs prefer to use floating
>power supply. And then, simple ground leakage detector can detect short to
>the ground in the motor before the drive is damaged.
>
I could make it float with just one more opto-isolator, and maybe I should
do that.
>Well, my amp has a filter, with a series inductor before each motor
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>Even if you put a current sensing in high-side as well as in low side (or in
>each leg of the motor) in the drive delivering kilowatts of peak power at
>voltages close to 100V or above, then the drive still might not handle a
>solid short circuit.
>
terminal.
But, I had a shorted low-side transistor, and the amp simply shut down,
protecting the high side transistor. The inductor wasn't even in the
current
path. So, I think it is pretty solid. It uses FETs, not IGBTs, which
are much
more sensitive to short circuit conditions.
>It is 56 uH per leg. This gives a reasonable time constant for the
>
>Having an inductor in series with motor might not be a best choice as well.
>A small inductor (in micro-henries) only decreases the RFI, although the
>closely twisted motor wires do about the same job.
>
overcurrent trip
to respond. At 50 KHz, with the motors I'm using, the time constant is
about
one cycle (20 uS).
> Large enough inductor (inThese are small toriods. In a previous servo amp, I used 2 150 uH inductors
>hundreds of micro-henries) dramatically increases the electrical time
>constant of the motors and even worse - it stores the energy and keeps
>driving the motor when the drive is not. It can totally upset the PID
>filter of the drive. Secondly, and more importantly, the inductor can
>quickly saturate at high currents. You would have to use physically very
>large transformer-like inductor - not a PCB mount ferrite coil.
>
in each leg, in a 2-pole filter. This still had a very short electrical
time
constant, and I get full power bandwidth to 3 KHz on that amp.
Jon
Discussion Thread
k8zre
2004-04-30 20:08:18 UTC
Dead servo
Jon Elson
2004-05-01 00:31:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Dead servo
Vladimir Huzevka RUTEX.COM
2004-05-07 06:39:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Dead servo
Jon Elson
2004-05-07 09:17:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Dead servo