Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - fixed for now
Posted by
R Rogers
on 2004-11-12 08:42:08 UTC
Les Newell <lesnewell@...> wrote:
Hi Keith,
Your symptoms sound very similar to my Z axis. It was always a bit
sluggish and had to be tuned slower than X and Y. After a couple of
months use the Gecko popped. After checking everything I replaced the
Gecko and it worked fine for another couple of months before blowing.
Twice was too much for me and I am replacing all the motors with servos.
Shoulda done that in the first place. I hate steppers...
/// From reading about steppers and servos it seems that steppers merely move when told to and do not sense a load and draw more current to overcome it, they skip and lose position instead when confronted with a higher torque requirement. Steppers are all about holding stationary position and not big on traversing to a new one. Servos on the other hand sense a load and draw more amperage to overcome the load and thus hold position at higher torque requirements. Is this accurate? My Bridgeport originally had steppers on it. Only 2 of the three worked reliably and one of them skipped incessantly. During the retrofit I switched to servos and there is no comparison. Rapids of 120 ipm and never loses position. I sold the steppers on Ebay for what the servos cost from the same. An even swap with a huge gain.
Ron
/////
Fuses are pretty useless when it comes to high current spikes. If you
have a fault the fuse is not likely to save the transistors though it
will probably blow before the tracks so the Gecko will be repairable.
I initially had 5A fuses on my X and Y but they had a tendency to blow
sometimes when making sudden rapid moves (high acceleration). If I
recall correctly I have 8A fuses in there now.
Les
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Hi Keith,
Your symptoms sound very similar to my Z axis. It was always a bit
sluggish and had to be tuned slower than X and Y. After a couple of
months use the Gecko popped. After checking everything I replaced the
Gecko and it worked fine for another couple of months before blowing.
Twice was too much for me and I am replacing all the motors with servos.
Shoulda done that in the first place. I hate steppers...
/// From reading about steppers and servos it seems that steppers merely move when told to and do not sense a load and draw more current to overcome it, they skip and lose position instead when confronted with a higher torque requirement. Steppers are all about holding stationary position and not big on traversing to a new one. Servos on the other hand sense a load and draw more amperage to overcome the load and thus hold position at higher torque requirements. Is this accurate? My Bridgeport originally had steppers on it. Only 2 of the three worked reliably and one of them skipped incessantly. During the retrofit I switched to servos and there is no comparison. Rapids of 120 ipm and never loses position. I sold the steppers on Ebay for what the servos cost from the same. An even swap with a huge gain.
Ron
/////
Fuses are pretty useless when it comes to high current spikes. If you
have a fault the fuse is not likely to save the transistors though it
will probably blow before the tracks so the Gecko will be repairable.
I initially had 5A fuses on my X and Y but they had a tendency to blow
sometimes when making sudden rapid moves (high acceleration). If I
recall correctly I have 8A fuses in there now.
Les
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Discussion Thread
Keith Clark
2004-11-11 21:53:55 UTC
Gecko burned - fixed for now
Les Newell
2004-11-12 01:16:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - fixed for now
Keith Clark
2004-11-12 03:31:21 UTC
Re: Gecko burned - fixed for now
Les Newell
2004-11-12 03:54:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Gecko burned - fixed for now
Keith Clark
2004-11-12 05:12:44 UTC
Re: Gecko burned - fixed for now
Les Newell
2004-11-12 05:33:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Gecko burned - fixed for now
R Rogers
2004-11-12 08:42:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - fixed for now
Roy J. Tellason
2004-11-12 10:13:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - fixed for now
Andy Wander
2004-11-12 10:36:25 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - fixed for now
Les Newell
2004-11-12 10:54:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - now motor types
R Rogers
2004-11-12 12:00:33 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - now motor types
Les Newell
2004-11-12 12:37:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - now motor types
Jon Elson
2004-11-12 20:48:40 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - now motor types
R Rogers
2004-11-13 09:49:58 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko burned - now motor types