Re: Is this doable on a CNC mill?
Posted by
ballendo
on 2005-04-24 06:45:35 UTC
Hello,
Sure, it's do-able. Using your picture as a starting point:
Lower your right hand until the wheel is at an angle that places the
outward sloping inner wall of the slot vertical. Then use your left
hand to raise the rim until the "fan blade" angle is similarly
vertical. Place this double angled setup on a rotary table. Now
simple vertical slot cutting will reach three of the required walls.
Use an endmill with a modified tip--like a drill bit--means with an
angle which will make the bottom of the slots correct. (Tool grinders
do this kind of mod for machine shops all the time.)
So here's the whole project, summarised:
1) Using a lathe or mill with rotary table, mount the part flat and
make the rough shape. (The outer round, inner hole and "dome", AND
the back side "flat details.)
2) set up the compund angle described above on a rotary table and
mill the slots.
3) working from the back side of the part-likely flat- finish the
slots--the fourth wall that you cannot reach from the front.
You might want to exchange steps 2 and 3.
Yes, it's do-able. 3 axis mill and a rotary table. (likely how the
original pattern was made.)
You could look into edm'ing the slots instead. Still rough them with
a mill, but use the electrods to get the "sharp" and "square" corners
in the slots without risk of endmill breakage.
Ballendo
P.S. Yes, they make endmills that small.
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Kole"
<AdrianKole@H...> wrote:
on feed rates and such)
Sure, it's do-able. Using your picture as a starting point:
Lower your right hand until the wheel is at an angle that places the
outward sloping inner wall of the slot vertical. Then use your left
hand to raise the rim until the "fan blade" angle is similarly
vertical. Place this double angled setup on a rotary table. Now
simple vertical slot cutting will reach three of the required walls.
Use an endmill with a modified tip--like a drill bit--means with an
angle which will make the bottom of the slots correct. (Tool grinders
do this kind of mod for machine shops all the time.)
So here's the whole project, summarised:
1) Using a lathe or mill with rotary table, mount the part flat and
make the rough shape. (The outer round, inner hole and "dome", AND
the back side "flat details.)
2) set up the compund angle described above on a rotary table and
mill the slots.
3) working from the back side of the part-likely flat- finish the
slots--the fourth wall that you cannot reach from the front.
You might want to exchange steps 2 and 3.
Yes, it's do-able. 3 axis mill and a rotary table. (likely how the
original pattern was made.)
You could look into edm'ing the slots instead. Still rough them with
a mill, but use the electrods to get the "sharp" and "square" corners
in the slots without risk of endmill breakage.
Ballendo
P.S. Yes, they make endmills that small.
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Kole"
<AdrianKole@H...> wrote:
>if
> The following link shows a real car rim and a 1:8 model of it:
>
> http://www.fineartmodels.com/e/model/auto/royale/royale_123.htm
>
> The objective is to make a 1:43 model of the rim and I am wondering
> this is doable on my mini mill. My concern is not with the generalfins
> cylindrical shape, but with those curved slots with *angled* fins
> going around the perimeter. I do not not if it critical for the
> to actually angle (like a fan or propeller for directing airthrough
> the hub).widest
>
> My question is: is this doable and how could it be done?
>
> I figure at that scale, the slots are only about 0.9 mm at the
> points. Realizing that even that size could not duplicate thefiner
> detail, are end mills even available at that size? Would it evenbe
> practical to use tools that small or would deflection and breakageplease, let's discuss the design of the machine for such a part.
> just make it impractical to make these parts?
>
> I know this is borderline for the list, and it may be off topic, so
>offer something better ?
> Would I need a 3 axis mill, or 4 axes ? 5 axes ???
>
> Would it be easier or better to try to move the head or the part ?
>
> Is milling the best way ? Is there other technologies that would
>might offer over a rotary table ?
> Also, would you please comment on what advantages a moving head
>builing and not on how to use the machine. (ie, please don't comment
> Please try to keep the topic within the topic of machine design and
on feed rates and such)
>
> TIA,
> Adrian
Discussion Thread
Adrian Kole
2005-04-22 09:32:14 UTC
Is this doable on a CNC mill?
Monte
2005-04-22 17:03:44 UTC
Re: Is this doable on a CNC mill?
R Rogers
2005-04-22 17:57:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is this doable on a CNC mill?
turbulatordude
2005-04-22 23:01:23 UTC
Re: Is this doable on a CNC mill?
R Rogers
2005-04-23 07:42:35 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is this doable on a CNC mill?
Adrian Kole
2005-04-23 09:53:40 UTC
Re: Is this doable on a CNC mill?
ballendo
2005-04-24 06:45:35 UTC
Re: Is this doable on a CNC mill?
R Rogers
2005-04-24 07:41:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is this doable on a CNC mill?