RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Force through ball screw based on stepper motor torque??
Posted by
John Dammeyer
on 2006-05-16 10:46:47 UTC
Hi Chris,
From page 113 of my Machinist Handbook 24th Edition. Assuming no friction,
Q = F x 6.2832 x R
----------
p
Q is the force of the screw.
F is the force on the end of the lever with radius R
P is the pitch of the screw.
In your example:
F is 200 oz-in
R is 1" since the F of the motor is rated in oz-in
P is 0.2"
Q is (200 oz * 6.2832 * 1 inch)/0.2 inch == 6283.2 oz
Divide by 16 to get pounds..
I calculate 392.7 lbs.
In real life it's less due to friction and your static friction to get it
moving from a stand still is more than the dynamic friction when it is
moving.
Page 113 also has the calculations if you know your co-efficient of
friction.
John Dammeyer
From page 113 of my Machinist Handbook 24th Edition. Assuming no friction,
Q = F x 6.2832 x R
----------
p
Q is the force of the screw.
F is the force on the end of the lever with radius R
P is the pitch of the screw.
In your example:
F is 200 oz-in
R is 1" since the F of the motor is rated in oz-in
P is 0.2"
Q is (200 oz * 6.2832 * 1 inch)/0.2 inch == 6283.2 oz
Divide by 16 to get pounds..
I calculate 392.7 lbs.
In real life it's less due to friction and your static friction to get it
moving from a stand still is more than the dynamic friction when it is
moving.
Page 113 also has the calculations if you know your co-efficient of
friction.
John Dammeyer
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Force through ball screw based on<SNIP>
> stepper motor torque??
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> Hi guys,
>
> This problem (if it is) has been bugging me for some time now. On
> my CNC router, I can only get about 70-80 pounds of force on any of
> the 3 axes. I am using the cheapo rolled ball screws 5/8 diameter -
> .2" pitch and they are attached to the ball screws - direct drive.
>
> The static load on any of the axis is less than 5 pounds of force.
> In other words, to move any axis and overcome it's friction, it
> takes less than 5 pounds of force.
>
> I am wondering if someone can run the calculations and tell me what
> they come up with as to what force I should get on an axis with the
> following:
>
> Unipolar 200 oz in motor @ 3 amps, 5/8" x .2" pitch screw, direct
> drive.
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> Oh, and the driver is running at 40 volts & 3 amps
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> Thanks folks!
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> Chris
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2006-05-16 06:14:23 UTC
Force through ball screw based on stepper motor torque??
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