Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2007-01-24 19:04:10 UTC
Mark Vaughan wrote:
computer (I am
assuming, with Mach 3), so you have no idea what the actual position
is. You only know
where you commanded it to go, and that it is within +/- 128 counts so
that the Gecko
didn't fault. (It really has to be much closer, but depending on a
range of parameters
such as motor resistance, Ilimit setting and supply voltage it can be
tens of counts.
Mariss at Gecko swears this is impossible due to the I term, but a
friend of mine
has a machine in town with G320 drives, and you can turn his handles
1/10th of
a turn and they will just stay there! This is about 50 counts on his
motors. He really
needs to increase his supply voltage, but it still shouldn't do this.)
There is a test point inside the Gecko drive where you can monitor
instantaneous
position error with a scope or DVM. I think the manual tells how to
convert voltage
into position error, in encoder count units.
It might be a good idea to read the position error at the ends of travel
when doing
this test. Just the overhanging weight of the table will increase
friction at the ends
of travel. It may be that all the error you are seeing is following
error, and maybe
electronic tuning on the servo drive would reduce it substantially.
Jon
>2 Are the servo drives set up correct. When you set a servo up, it'sThis is an incredibly good point. Your system is open-loop back to the
>response will look nice with P and D parameters, but it will stop before it
>gets to position or just after, there will always or near always be an
>error, it needs a little more oomph on the last bit.
>
computer (I am
assuming, with Mach 3), so you have no idea what the actual position
is. You only know
where you commanded it to go, and that it is within +/- 128 counts so
that the Gecko
didn't fault. (It really has to be much closer, but depending on a
range of parameters
such as motor resistance, Ilimit setting and supply voltage it can be
tens of counts.
Mariss at Gecko swears this is impossible due to the I term, but a
friend of mine
has a machine in town with G320 drives, and you can turn his handles
1/10th of
a turn and they will just stay there! This is about 50 counts on his
motors. He really
needs to increase his supply voltage, but it still shouldn't do this.)
There is a test point inside the Gecko drive where you can monitor
instantaneous
position error with a scope or DVM. I think the manual tells how to
convert voltage
into position error, in encoder count units.
It might be a good idea to read the position error at the ends of travel
when doing
this test. Just the overhanging weight of the table will increase
friction at the ends
of travel. It may be that all the error you are seeing is following
error, and maybe
electronic tuning on the servo drive would reduce it substantially.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Polaraligned
2007-01-24 06:29:37 UTC
Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Polaraligned
2007-01-24 07:16:08 UTC
Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Jon Elson
2007-01-24 09:58:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
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2007-01-24 10:09:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Mike Phillips
2007-01-24 11:34:22 UTC
Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Polaraligned
2007-01-24 12:12:02 UTC
Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Polaraligned
2007-01-24 12:25:09 UTC
Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Peter Reilley
2007-01-24 13:13:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Mark Vaughan
2007-01-24 13:14:02 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
R Rogers
2007-01-24 13:19:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Polaraligned
2007-01-24 14:58:02 UTC
Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Polaraligned
2007-01-24 15:30:16 UTC
Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash- Test data
Jon Elson
2007-01-24 18:50:40 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Jon Elson
2007-01-24 19:04:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Polaraligned
2007-01-25 04:55:15 UTC
Servo Error, - Was backlash.
Dan Mauch
2007-01-25 07:56:12 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport Ballscrew Backlash
Mark Vaughan
2007-01-25 19:31:25 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo Error, - Was backlash.
Jon Elson
2007-01-26 02:06:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo Error, - Was backlash.