Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
Posted by
gcode fi (hanermo)
on 2009-05-12 12:07:40 UTC
Re: heating.
This is probably the case sometimes.
I dont see it, at 48 V, in servo use.
I dont see it, at 24 V, in testing.
And if I do see it, I will use a small cheap basic 24 V computer fan
(rackmount fan) and thats it.
The cooling is a non-issue (for me, in this case).
These are practical real-world observations.
The heat might be a problem if;
-I had longer use
-It was not outside in a metal enclosure (total airflow and very large
metal case surface volume)
As Mariss of geckodrives said somewhere, the heat really builds up at
high voltages.
Danny Miller wrote:
This is probably the case sometimes.
I dont see it, at 48 V, in servo use.
I dont see it, at 24 V, in testing.
And if I do see it, I will use a small cheap basic 24 V computer fan
(rackmount fan) and thats it.
The cooling is a non-issue (for me, in this case).
These are practical real-world observations.
The heat might be a problem if;
-I had longer use
-It was not outside in a metal enclosure (total airflow and very large
metal case surface volume)
As Mariss of geckodrives said somewhere, the heat really builds up at
high voltages.
Danny Miller wrote:
> The overheating is more possible than you think!
>
> For example, your motor is rated at 130V DC 18.5A 6000RPM.
> At 24v, you should get 1107RPM. IIRC the fan's cooling capacity is the
> square of the RPM, so it's like 3% effective, so basically nothing.
>
> Now there's two losses here, one is core loss which is complicated to
> calculate but DC I^2*R wire losses are not.
> You might load the motor down at 18.5A at 1107 RPM. That's "legal" and
> only consumes 444W. This will produce torque comparable to the torque
> at full load at 6000 RPM.
> The I^2*R losses are now exactly the same as the 130V full-power case,
> BUT the cooling is reduced to nothing (or maybe I was wrong on the
> squared basis, maybe it's just linear- in which case we have 18% fan
> cooling power).
>
> So, you have a serious cooling problem! It "might" overheat in a minute
> or two, it's hard to say. Depends on how much extra cooling that motor
> had. Probably ok.
>
> The treadmill motors usually have a fan on the pulley output+flywheel.
> In fact you may not even have one at all, some surplus mfgs don't ship
> the heavy flywheel. In which case you don't even have the fan in the
> first place.
>
> The 24v scooter motor makes much more sense.
>
> Danny
>
> gcode fi (hanermo) wrote:
>
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gcode fi (hanermo)
2009-05-11 11:54:36 UTC
Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
Bob Muse
2009-05-11 12:03:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
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2009-05-11 14:55:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
Roland Jollivet
2009-05-11 18:08:35 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
Danny Miller
2009-05-11 22:54:21 UTC
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Danny Miller
2009-05-11 22:55:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
gcode fi (hanermo)
2009-05-12 00:16:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
Danny Miller
2009-05-12 01:19:17 UTC
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stan
2009-05-12 01:49:21 UTC
Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
stan
2009-05-12 02:04:44 UTC
Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
gcode fi (hanermo)
2009-05-12 12:07:40 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
gcode fi (hanermo)
2009-05-12 12:11:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry
Danny Miller
2009-05-12 15:22:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: [DIY-CNC] need transmission ideas / advice re: gantry