Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Dolphin December Offers

Tim, I agree the way they handle things is weird and pretty dumb in my
opinion. That said, one nice thing about their policy is that once you have
a feature in Alibre, you never lose it even if they remove it from your
current license level. I have features in my $99 copy that I would need to
pay $1000 for now (such as full import/export capabilities), because shortly
after I bought it they changed the features that were included in each
level. This holds true even though version upgrades, if you had a feature in
v12, you will still have it in v2011 (guess they are scared of v13)
regardless of changes in their license levels.

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:13 PM, timgoldstein <timg@...> wrote:

> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Mike Payson <mike@...> wrote:
> >
> > If you want a cheap CAD only product, Alibre is a much more powerful
> product
> > than ViaCAD. I have both, but since I bought Alibre I never tough ViaCAD.
> >
> > http://www.alibre.com/products/hobby/
>
> I would certainly second Alibre as a super value in a full 3D CAD only
> system. Their highest end product also has Visual Mill Basic CAM integrated.
>
> I used Alibre for my primary CAD system when I started A2Z CNC and
> continued with it for about 4 years. It served me very well. Eventually
> ended up needing some of the more advanced features and greater productivity
> of a higher and product. Evaluated both Solidworks and Autodesk Inventor and
> decided Inventor was the better choice with both at about the same cost.
> What was nice is pretty much all the techinque and approach I learned with
> Alibre transfer over to both Solidworks and Inventory. I am convinced that
> if you learn Alibre, other than figuring out where things are you can step
> into many of the professional 3D solid type programs and be productive right
> away. For a hobbyist, you will probably never need to move beyond Alibre.
>
> My only frustration with Alibre is the ridiculous way they do their
> maintainance. I have signed lots of software maintainance deals over the
> years as I used to run an IT department for a company that did application
> development and have 4 different product personally that have maintainance.
> The norm (like eveyone but Alibre) is you pay about 20% of the license cost
> and you always get the newest version of the level your original license is
> for. The great part is you get all the new feature that you would get if you
> bought the same level license currently. This is where Alibre differs. The
> cost is the same percentage on their higher end products, BUT you have to
> pay extra to get the new features. You get the new version, but only with
> the feature that existed when you bought your license. Total bullshit and is
> the only reason that I did not just renew my Alibre maintance for 3 years.
> Alibre lost a $750 sale and the reality is it makes no difference to me as I
> am only using it to open old files until I redo them in Inventor.
>
> Tim Goldstein
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