Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: re:OK - you convinced me - was "Automated "Manual CNC"
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2000-10-06 21:55:36 UTC
Brian Collier wrote:
backlash is
large (my old Acme screws were up to .050" on the Y axis) it won't work
at all. When following smooth curves, like a circle, it requires a very
smooth
slow down to zero speed, then reverse and slowly accelerate, without any
jump or jerk. If there is much backlash, the motor will have to
suddenly jump
to the other side of the backlash, and it inevitably will cause the
table to jerk.
The other problem with backlash is you can't climb mill. I do almost
all
my work climb milling, because it gives better surface finish. If you
have
much backlash, the cutting forces can pull the work into the cutter,
causing
tool breakage, or workpieces being pulled out of the vise and thrown
across
the room.
for
servo control. My EMC system reads the encoder position 1000 times /
sec.
Jon
> Thank you once again for the informative answer!If the backlash is small, around .001", it can do fairly well. If the
>
> I am a little confused when you talk about backlash being a problem
> in my proposed set up. In open-loop or closed-loop with position
> feedback from the motor, I understand about backlash being a problem.
> The PC has no way of knowing the true position of the workpiece due
> to the backlash. However, with closed-loop with feedback from the
> table, couldn't the CNC program just work around it?
backlash is
large (my old Acme screws were up to .050" on the Y axis) it won't work
at all. When following smooth curves, like a circle, it requires a very
smooth
slow down to zero speed, then reverse and slowly accelerate, without any
jump or jerk. If there is much backlash, the motor will have to
suddenly jump
to the other side of the backlash, and it inevitably will cause the
table to jerk.
The other problem with backlash is you can't climb mill. I do almost
all
my work climb milling, because it gives better surface finish. If you
have
much backlash, the cutting forces can pull the work into the cutter,
causing
tool breakage, or workpieces being pulled out of the vise and thrown
across
the room.
> My encoders probably will be digital caliper heads running onThe SPC port gives 1 to 2 outputs per second, and is of no value at all
> lengthened scales. Output would be through the SPC port.
for
servo control. My EMC system reads the encoder position 1000 times /
sec.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Ron Ginger
2000-10-06 07:36:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: re:OK - you convinced me - was "Automated "Manual CNC"
Brian Collier
2000-10-06 11:08:57 UTC
Re: re:OK - you convinced me - was "Automated "Manual CNC"
Ron Ginger
2000-10-06 11:34:11 UTC
Re:OK - you convinced me - was "Automated "Manual CNC"
dave engvall
2000-10-06 16:05:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: re:OK - you convinced me - was "Automated "Manual CNC"
William Scalione
2000-10-06 21:45:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: OK - you convinced me - was "Automated "Manual CNC"
Jon Elson
2000-10-06 21:55:36 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: re:OK - you convinced me - was "Automated "Manual CNC"