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Re: EDM Article MEW

Posted by Brian Fairey
on 1999-07-07 09:26:33 UTC
Thank you, thank you, thank you, now I am having problems posting copies that you can read SO if you would like a xerox copy in the mail
send me your address.
bfairey@...
Brian, Ont, Canada.

Gar Willis wrote:

> From: garfield@... (Gar Willis)
>
> On Tue, 06 Jul 1999 14:30:30 -0400, Brian Fairey <bfairey@...>
> wrote:
>
> >Here we go again? well sue me.
> >Brian.
>
> >Mike Chaney wrote:
> >
> >> Brian Fairey wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: Brian Fairey <bfairey@...>
> >> >
> >> > Ian, the lesson to be learnt from this is that if you want something ask "HERE". I can scan you the article and email it to you
> >> > if you want, you only have to ask.
> >> > Brian. Ont,Can
> >> >
> >>
> >> That would constitute breach of copyright.
> >>
> >> Mike
>
> Yes, it would TECHNICALLY constitute such a breach, but given the
> circumstances with the actual publisher unable to recover the entire
> issue, I hardly think they're likely to complain or want to, when some
> one individual privately steps in to help out someone bereft of a copy,
> especially where no commercial or for-profit motive obtains. They'd
> moreNlikely be thankful for the private exchange of article copies
> taking heat off them for screwing up so badly. You'd be absolutely
> AMAZED at the huge likelyhood that even asking for formal permission to
> POST a scan of such an article, would result in not only ready
> permission, but literal AWE in the minds of the publishers, who would be
> overjoyed that someone would even BOTHER to ask them! On our group,
> we've had several occasions where we wanted to post previously published
> articles, and WITHOUT exception, when we asked for such permission to
> post/upload the article to a PUBLIC site, we were give immediate
> permission, AND profuse thanks for asking first. And this was for
> requesting permission to reproduce an article copy in PUBLIC.
>
> I'm from a centuries old publishing house (we now reproduce archival
> quality recasts of classical works from the 17th, 18th, & 19th century),
> and whilst publishers STAUNCHLY defend their copyrights, they're not
> likely to consider private forwardings of a lost copy to a friend, with
> quite the majesterial pomposity of your single line "that would
> constitute breach of copyright". If you WANT a now internationally
> agreed upon canon of intellectual property to be RESPECTED by the
> public, you wanna stay away from prissy finger-pointing like this, that
> would attempt to criminalize on the same level, such "professional" or
> "for research/investigation purposes" copying of articles, with someone
> cloning a copy of a valuable restoration work that could impact the
> restoring company enormously in financial terms, or in the case of a
> magazine, supplying for profit, reprints of entire ISSUES. A single
> ARTICLE copy, from an entire ISSUE on the verge of being lost by the
> publisher themselves, please let's keep things in perspective, shall we?
>
> Remember that the international copyright laws ALLOW for reproduction of
> magazine articles in sizeable quotations for the purpose of review and
> comment. There is a tacit acknowledgement therein, that the copyright
> laws are NOT aimed at those who are trying to discuss, share, and
> advance the art, but IS aimed at those who seek to profiteer from the
> republication of works in their entirety, or to circumvent the
> subscription charges of the magazine publisher. The latter cases are
> CLEARLY not the situation in this example before us.
>
> Just me dos centavos, amigos. Strange as it seems, copyright laws when
> sanely applied are one of the last bastions of rationality in law left
> remaining in the US legal system. Let's not stretch it so paper thin
> that the elasticity is all taken out, OK?
>
> Gar
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