re:Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Posted by
ballendo@y...
on 2001-02-15 22:22:40 UTC
Smoke,
The problem with the "spring between" method you propose is as he
mentioned... Any pressure applied greater than the spring will
introduce backlash. To reduce this tendency, the spring is made
stiffer. Problem then is, the spring causes the nut assy. to be hard
to turn and adds undue wear of the screw. That is why this type of
backlash screw is seen less and less today...
What he proposes (although I'm not sure I see it the way you
described) takes advantage of the pressure angle of the acme screw
that I just talked about (earlier post). That is, since the pressure
to "close" the two halves of the split nut is applied at right angles
to the screw, the flank angle will HELP us to get more EFFECT from a
lighter spring pressure. Also, the axial load will again be helped by
this flank angle (with a 10 degree angle,only a small percent of the
force is being directed in an effort to "push the split nut apart").
Yes, these last two sentences say the same thing; from different
directions.
The method is also easily adjusted, allows for wear, and is easily
changed for ballscrews later(you just mount the outer cylinder to the
machine in the same way as the ballnut ; i.e., a threaded end, or a
mounting flange.
Hope this helps.
Ballendo
BTW, the difference in the way we see his nut description is this:
The split nut(hot dog bun. The screw is the frankfurter.) IS captured
by the cylinder which IS mounted to the machine axis. However, the
split nut is constrained AXIALLY by this "cylinder" which contains
the screws and springs to apply pressure to the split nut. It is not
allowed to rotate, IMO.
The problem with the "spring between" method you propose is as he
mentioned... Any pressure applied greater than the spring will
introduce backlash. To reduce this tendency, the spring is made
stiffer. Problem then is, the spring causes the nut assy. to be hard
to turn and adds undue wear of the screw. That is why this type of
backlash screw is seen less and less today...
What he proposes (although I'm not sure I see it the way you
described) takes advantage of the pressure angle of the acme screw
that I just talked about (earlier post). That is, since the pressure
to "close" the two halves of the split nut is applied at right angles
to the screw, the flank angle will HELP us to get more EFFECT from a
lighter spring pressure. Also, the axial load will again be helped by
this flank angle (with a 10 degree angle,only a small percent of the
force is being directed in an effort to "push the split nut apart").
Yes, these last two sentences say the same thing; from different
directions.
The method is also easily adjusted, allows for wear, and is easily
changed for ballscrews later(you just mount the outer cylinder to the
machine in the same way as the ballnut ; i.e., a threaded end, or a
mounting flange.
Hope this helps.
Ballendo
BTW, the difference in the way we see his nut description is this:
The split nut(hot dog bun. The screw is the frankfurter.) IS captured
by the cylinder which IS mounted to the machine axis. However, the
split nut is constrained AXIALLY by this "cylinder" which contains
the screws and springs to apply pressure to the split nut. It is not
allowed to rotate, IMO.
><snip> I'm sure this would work well....provided you have the roomthe nut.<snip>
>to mount it that way. I'll have to go with the spring mounted
>between two captive nuts...which does the same job, allows for wear,
>is EASILY replaced by standard ball screws when the lead screw is
>changed, it need no adjustment and takes up less space.
> Smoke
>
>
> >Hey Smoke,
> >there is a much better way to get rid of back lash.
> >What you propose always will have the back lash as soon you force
Discussion Thread
Smoke
2001-02-12 15:41:56 UTC
Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Tim Goldstein
2001-02-12 15:52:25 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Jay Hayes
2001-02-12 16:37:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Helen Fahy
2001-02-12 20:32:54 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Jay Hayes
2001-02-12 22:28:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Helen Fahy
2001-02-13 03:27:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Joe Vicars
2001-02-13 05:23:33 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Sven Peter, TAD S.A.
2001-02-13 10:44:57 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Rich D.
2001-02-13 12:31:54 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Sven Peter, TAD S.A.
2001-02-14 03:57:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Sven Peter, TAD S.A.
2001-02-14 05:31:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Smoke
2001-02-14 14:45:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Smoke
2001-02-15 20:15:11 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
ballendo@y...
2001-02-15 22:22:40 UTC
re:Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Tom Eldredge
2001-02-16 03:32:17 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Ian Wright
2001-02-16 05:37:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] re:Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Smoke
2001-02-16 13:08:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] re:Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
ballendo@y...
2001-02-16 16:04:05 UTC
nut backlash comp. was re:Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
ballendo@y...
2001-02-16 17:15:47 UTC
backlash comped nut design re:Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Smoke
2001-02-16 20:48:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] backlash comped nut design re:Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters
Ian Wright
2001-02-17 03:54:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] nut backlash comp. was re:Re: Ball screws for CNC plasma cutters