Re: Linux??
Posted by
Bertho Boman
on 1999-10-11 11:51:04 UTC
First of all, I have put on my flameproof suit and I am not trying to start a war. A lot of years ago, I even used a Unix clone
so I have been exposed to the culture. I do not think the issues that Hoyt brought up is about EMC, I think it is Linux. I
have been thinking about writing this for a long time and I guess now is a good time.
I have been reading about endless problems of people that forever have been trying to first get Linux running and then EMC. A
very large part of the problems seams to be Linux itself. There is nothing wrong with it as such but experienced Windows users
will have a hard time getting up to speed on a different OS which is normal. That is further aggravated by the need for the
older kernel. If there was 1/100 of the problems experienced in the Linux OS with Windows, people would scream bloody murder.
The argument that it is "free" does not hold too much water. Time is not free! It is used at a constant rate and spending week
after week trying to load and debug a Linux installation surely is not worth the time it takes. Except if the goal is to learn
a new operating system. I have done many similar things for the learning experience but let's not say it is done because it is
free.
What is the basic goal of this group? I am under the impression that it is about machining under computer control and producing
parts. If you look at the message traffic it seams to be more of "Linux now sort-of-runs and I will spend the next week to
change the screen resolution" or "what patch do I need to use ......"
I am very reluctant to commit my time to getting a Linux system up an running when I rather be building hardware and optimize
CNC control and so on.
I really like to try EMC and I am all for it's free approach with people adding features to it and it could grow were quickly
into a very good product. The sad part is that it is basically tied to Linux.
Think about if a fraction of the energy that has gone into trying to debug Linux by this group had gone into a Real Time kernel
for Windows NT. Most persons are familiar with the system and everyone could jump in and learn about EMC directly. That
instead of learning a new OS first and at the same time debug a hardware-Linux combination computer before finally trying EMC.
I have heard rumors about a RT kernel for NT. Does anyone know about its availability and is anyone using it for EMC?
I am not in love with Windows but I like to use my time as efficiently as possible. By the way, I have extremely few problems
with my NT servers and NT workstations and I have been fighting computer problems too long to volunteer extra punishment.
I have turned on the cooling water and hopefully I will survive the flames from the Linux addicts. The rest of you might want
to think about the option for a RT kernel for NT.
Bertho Boman
Vinland Corporation
so I have been exposed to the culture. I do not think the issues that Hoyt brought up is about EMC, I think it is Linux. I
have been thinking about writing this for a long time and I guess now is a good time.
I have been reading about endless problems of people that forever have been trying to first get Linux running and then EMC. A
very large part of the problems seams to be Linux itself. There is nothing wrong with it as such but experienced Windows users
will have a hard time getting up to speed on a different OS which is normal. That is further aggravated by the need for the
older kernel. If there was 1/100 of the problems experienced in the Linux OS with Windows, people would scream bloody murder.
The argument that it is "free" does not hold too much water. Time is not free! It is used at a constant rate and spending week
after week trying to load and debug a Linux installation surely is not worth the time it takes. Except if the goal is to learn
a new operating system. I have done many similar things for the learning experience but let's not say it is done because it is
free.
What is the basic goal of this group? I am under the impression that it is about machining under computer control and producing
parts. If you look at the message traffic it seams to be more of "Linux now sort-of-runs and I will spend the next week to
change the screen resolution" or "what patch do I need to use ......"
I am very reluctant to commit my time to getting a Linux system up an running when I rather be building hardware and optimize
CNC control and so on.
I really like to try EMC and I am all for it's free approach with people adding features to it and it could grow were quickly
into a very good product. The sad part is that it is basically tied to Linux.
Think about if a fraction of the energy that has gone into trying to debug Linux by this group had gone into a Real Time kernel
for Windows NT. Most persons are familiar with the system and everyone could jump in and learn about EMC directly. That
instead of learning a new OS first and at the same time debug a hardware-Linux combination computer before finally trying EMC.
I have heard rumors about a RT kernel for NT. Does anyone know about its availability and is anyone using it for EMC?
I am not in love with Windows but I like to use my time as efficiently as possible. By the way, I have extremely few problems
with my NT servers and NT workstations and I have been fighting computer problems too long to volunteer extra punishment.
I have turned on the cooling water and hopefully I will survive the flames from the Linux addicts. The rest of you might want
to think about the option for a RT kernel for NT.
Bertho Boman
Vinland Corporation
Discussion Thread
Bertho Boman
1999-10-11 11:51:04 UTC
Re: Linux??
Jon Elson
1999-10-11 23:20:38 UTC
Re: Linux??
TheDragonPit
1999-10-12 05:20:08 UTC
Re: Linux??